Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Occhiogrosso


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  06:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Joe Occhiogrosso

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The subject of this article does not seem to meet criteria for notability as a businessperson. His books are self-published. He does write a regular column for Weekly World News under the name "Joe Bigeye," but I don't think that rises to the level needed to be included here. Joyous! | Talk 05:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  06:15, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Business. Joyous! | Talk 05:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:09, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The article has several fundamental issues: 1. The whole article reads like a advertisement to promote him Joe O. is known as one of the most successful sales professionals and entrepreneurs in the country 2. I read the whole article and did not see any evidence of entrepreneurship, While he is mentioned as an entrepreneur. 3. There is no reliable sources to cover the biography of him from his education to his economic activities. He does not meet any criteria for notability. Alimovvarsu (talk) 22:14, 11 November 2022 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ✗ plicit  06:15, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PROMOTION as the article is entirely self-promotional (and blatantly autobiographical), which means it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. To be clear, he and his business, All-Pro Title Group, were featured in The Courier News in 2004, but that article is nearly entirely driven by what Occhiogrosso is saying about himself and his company. He is also prominent in two NJ.com articles discussing his involvement in volunteer work in Nicaragua and in the Amazon rainforest (cited within the article), and he is mentioned in other newspaper articles for his work as an energy salesman and his efforts in political fundraising, etc., but these don't really point to a notability argument either in the Wikipedia sense (see WP:Notability (People)). The article does cite a paywalled article about a contentious departure from a past employer, but overall there is no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources that back up notability per WP:BASIC, let alone WP:GNG. (And for what it's worth...there is no actual secondary source to verify that "Joe Bigeye" on the Weekly World News blog is actually Joe Occhiogrosso, either; not that it would make a difference for notability purposes, but that's the kind of claim that automatically gets deleted.) Anyway, if it is self-promotion and marketing you are after, there are other websites and networks that are much better suited for that, which would also be a better use of everyone's time. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as self promotional, as per WP:PROMO. LibStar (talk) 05:50, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


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