Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Rospars


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The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 04:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Joe Rospars

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He works for the government. Can't see that he's done anything actually notable. Is there anything else? Unreferenced and has been subject to a bit of a WP:COATRACK about some Irish controversy (removed previously by others). The-Pope (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Article lacks any reliable secondary sources to establish notability per WP:BIO. Uncle Dick (talk) 17:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I think the nominator understates the role of Mr. Rospars. He ran the new media segment of Barack Obama's 2008 presidential election campaign, and is widely considered an authority on "new media" (whatever that might be). The news link above gives ample sourcing for notability. Somebody will need to update the article. Ray  Talk 04:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Rospars is considered in "digital giant" by one of the world's most respected media organisations in a different continent from where he operates, and simply clicking on the Google News, Books and Scholar links spoon-fed in the nomination leads to hundreds more such sources. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. He was interviewed as part of a show called "digital giants".  Slight and subtle difference.  Most of those refs from Gnews are comments by him about others.  Very few are truly biographical about him. He is borderline notable and he's taking the spin industry into a "new direction" but to me it's still just a job that is a bit higher profile than most, but still not, in my mind, subject to non-trivial coverage of HIM (not of his work or his comments).  If it ends up keep I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but as long as the best of those refs make it into the article, I'll be happy. The-Pope (talk) 23:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 04:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Well, OK, I guess he's notable: . You sure wouldn't know it from the article, though - it's completely unsourced. --MelanieN (talk) 00:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * But we still don't know it from just a google news list.  Which of the "refs" actually provide information about Joe and which ones are just trivial mentions of his name in an article?The-Pope (talk) 05:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete All the coverage I can find is basically either "Rospars was Obama's New Media Director", with no biographical information, or "Joe Rospars said..." and a quote from him. I could not find significant coverage of him which did more than confirm his post. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 10:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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