Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Scowcroft


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Joe Scowcroft

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WP:NFOOTY is no longer a valid SNG, so GNG must be met. There is not enough coverage of this person to meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Player is recorded and noted about in multiple books, All About... Bolton Wanderers ISBN(unknown), Bolton Wanderers : the Complete Record 1877-2011 ISBN:978-1780913810. Already some other sources on the article. There are some other sources around to use. Govvy (talk) 21:42, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What and how much do those sources say about him? JoelleJay (talk) 00:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't find the subject in either of the above, can you provide a page number for WP:V?  // Timothy :: talk  01:39, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Gopvvy. Definelty additional offline eousrces as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * , Since you state there definitely are offline sources, can you provide some examples? Or is this just an opinion?  // Timothy :: talk  00:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There's four that have already been provided. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm apparently not seeing what your seeing. Can you copy and paste the four refs with enough info to check WP:V? Or at least a diff showing enough information for WP:V.  // Timothy :: talk  01:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete No indications that any of the sources in the article are significant. On the contrary, the part involving Scowcroft in the The Origins of the Football League is mentioned being from a match report. Alvaldi (talk) 08:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment - The Complete Records ref is a primary source, having been written by club Secretary Simon Marland. The All About source is not found in any search.  That's the 2 sources mentioned.  Neither of which go to notability. Onel 5969  TT me 01:27, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I know how to count. I was referring to the two also in the article: The Origins of the Football League and Football League Players' Records 1888 to 1939. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. We have no evidence that any of the mentioned offline sources actually provide SIGCOV, and online searches have not yielded anything either. JoelleJay (talk) 02:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article appears to fail WP:GNG. A Google Book preview of The Origins of the Football League: The First Season 1888/89 shows that Scowcroft is only mentioned in match reports. I can't find a preview of Bolton Wanderers: The Complete Record, but it appears to be a primary source. I can't access All About...Bolton Wanderers at all, but nobody's provided any indication it contains SIGCOV of Scowcroft. I'm not finding anything else on my own. Jogurney (talk) 02:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of significant coverage. Origins of the Football League has several one-line mentions throughout the book, but nothing indicating notability. BruceThomson (talk) 06:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I was unable to find other coverage.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 06:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


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