Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Sulzer


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The result was   keep. Spartaz Humbug! 15:12, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Joe Sulzer

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Poorly sourced BLP page, tagged with notability concern by another user. -- Cirt (talk) 12:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep As I was the one who gave the NYT cite, I think that it is not really a "poor" cite. Sulzer decidedly meets notability requirements - many cites from Ohio papers are around.  Is "notability" being given as the sole real reason for deletion? If so I commend the following for attention: , ,  show he is regualrly mentioned in local media.  It is definitely not an "unreferenced" BLP. so I suggest that other BLPs should be a higher priority for weeding.    singled out as a candidate by Rahm Emmanuel.   transcript in Clinton's autobiography.  He is not the most notable mayor in the US, but the WP standards are met. Collect (talk) 13:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep [Changed vote, see below, but keep the following to show weakness of these sources so they are not used in the article] As per the references that Collect has provided,,  are routine news coverage that only in passing mention Sulzer.  While  is a profile of a completely different person, who just happened to be running against Sulzer.  In  Sulzer is merely a moderator at a deabte Clinton was in, it is not, in anyway, about Sulzer himself.  And I couldn't access number the other one.  Overall, these references have no sustained, focused coverage that signify notability of any form to Sulzer. Ravendrop (talk) 21:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * WP does not require "national notability" last I checked. He was a State Rep, Mayor, and Congressional candidate of a major party.  He got mentioned in the national press.  He has many mentions in local press as Mayor.  Note the applicable criteria include "members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature" which 8includes Sulzer. " mayors of cities of at least regional importance are likely to meet this criterion " also includes Sulzer (Chillicothe is a former capital of Ohio).  He meets two criteria for a politician being notable in the WP guideline - which is one more than is needed. Collect (talk) 22:23, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I missed the part where he was elected to the Ohio House of Representatives, which does qualify him under WP:Politician. Still believe the article is in need of some work, but that alone isn't a reason for deletion.   Ravendrop (talk) 22:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I added an infobox to make his 'notability' more obvious so this debacle won't repeat itself later, although I find it difficult to believe so many of you "didn't notice" he was a member of the state legislature. It's not as if this was a long article, or that his service there was only mentioned in passing. However, I will Assume Good Faith on your part(s) that you actually read past the first line of the article. Flatterworld (talk) 15:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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