Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Thein


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. That a country may be small is all the more reason for the politiicans in it to need to be at the highest national level for notability. not the other way round. The argument for keep does not seem based on either logic or policy  DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Joe Thein

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no indication of WP:notability. No independent WP:reliable sources. Claims to be a local councillor on a small council. noq (talk) 19:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Luxembourg-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Sounds like an up-and-coming young man, but it's a case of WP:TOOSOON. Maybe he will go on to greater heights than representative on a small munipical council and officer in a youth organization. If so, we can have an article about him then. BTW I see that the author of the article, in removing the PROD, said he is on the council of "one of the biggest municipalities in Luxembourg". That may be so, but it still took only 403 votes to elect him. Per WP:POLITICIAN he will have to achieve national office before he gets an article here. --MelanieN (talk) 01:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 08:58, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 02:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete He is a councillor on a communal council for a population of 15,000, which is insufficient for WP:POLITICIAN. Few other claims to notability. --AJHingston (talk) 10:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. No-one is respecting the special conditions of each country. Luxembourg is a very small country and the circumstances such as they are, are lawful and important. A deletion of this article should have the consequence of a revise of all the other articles about politics, just referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Maar for an example, because this person has no seat in parliament, neither in council, no longer president of a youth organization and got an article here! -- Ungarisch (talk) 05:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.99.1.155 (talk)
 * I for one am aware that Luxembourg is a small country, and am sympathetic to the argument that special considerations apply. But we need to beware of saying that because in small countries or communities there is a tendency for people involved in public life, or entertainment, or whatever to become well known throughout that society much more easily than in a large one they are necessarily notable in Wikipedia terms. I am from the UK and I am not at all sure that somebody here who was a leader of his party's youth wing and been elected to a local council would be notable in Wikipedia terms. That is not saying that he will not become so, but as MelanieN says it seems best to see how his life progresses. After all, he may move on to other things. --AJHingston (talk) 10:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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