Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Kramer (author)


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The result was   delete both articles. Mojo Hand (talk) 15:18, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Joel Kramer (author)

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Writer with no discernible claim to notability. Article comments that he is "co-author with Diana Alstad of two books", which seems to be an attempt to garner notability from someone else. Unfortunately, the only claim to notability on her article is that she is "especially known as a co-author with Joel Kramer of two books". Hence joint nomination for deletion of both articles. Emeraude (talk) 13:05, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page:


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    13:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    13:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 21:16, 13 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete both: Clearly fails WP:GNG. Also: WP:NOTINHERITED Ceosad (talk) 23:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems an attempt at self-promotion. ShelbyMarion (talk) 14:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete both - while there were a number of hits on the search engines, none appear to be about this person. Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - changed vote above after researching second article.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete both as I thought as I had comment before but my comment either way is that they're not currently outstandingly notable yet and nothing to convince otherwise. SwisterTwister   talk  19:32, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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