Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Someillan


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The result was delete. Blps where the subject clearly does not pass gng are not usuwlly kept for technical sng passes. Producer grammys are a weaker argument anyway Spartaz Humbug! 22:52, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Joel Someillan

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The subject has added a fair bit to the article over time, as "Joelsom", but the content is mostly unsourced and feels like a personal web page for the subject, not an encyclopedic entry. I can't find sources to support GNG and the references present mostly mention the subject in passing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Apparent autobiography, fails GNG and MUSICBIO. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete autobiographies are forbidden on Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Not forbidden but heavily discouraged, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak delete or draft he has won two Latin Grammys so that would pass one of the criteria at WP:NMUSIC but the article is heavily promotional and would either need TNT or a total rewrite, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft per Atlantic306, as the subject is notable in music WP:NMUSIC Sweetteaplz (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If he were a musician, winning two Grammy's might make him notable, but we don't have a producer category at NMUSIC, so I don't know that he does meet any criteria. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Clarification. If he is actually notable, wouldn't you suggest keep instead? Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, but upon a search of him I couldn't find articles written. His references #2, and #3 don't work, and most are passing mentions. Sweetteaplz (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Is there a way to keep an article knowing that the artist is WP:NMUSIC, but there is no coverage of him that's substantial? Sweetteaplz (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


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