Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel W. Gonzales


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 04:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Joel W. Gonzales

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I think we have a vampire article here...

A very similar title Joel W Gonzales has been deleted multiple times and Salted. Another similar title Joel William Gonzales has also been deleted multiple times- and salted, though it doesn't show in the delete history.

I can't tell what was on those articles before they were deleted, and, quite frankly, it doesn't likely matter. (Though if an Admin looks, and I'm off-base here, please let me know.) If I'm wrong about the recreation, I'm still thinking this is a violation of WP:ENT as this person has not "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." Bradjamesbrown (talk) 07:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I forgot to make it clear in the opening comment that William is this subject's middle name. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 07:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Was it speedy deleted or deleted via a discussion before? It it was I would have to say Delete per G4, however the article seems to assert notability except for the one bad reference, so then again I would keep it if it was speedy deleted before.  IShadowed  ✰  19:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:26, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment It appears that the article was written for Joel W. Gonzales, as evidenced by this edit.  fetch  comms  ☛ 19:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment yes, fetchomms. This user came into the IRC #wikipedia-en-afc asking for help creating his article about a client. We then explained a possible conflict of interest to him, but he proceeded to create the article in one of my sandboxes. Once it was at a neutral point of view and what seemed notable enough I moved it into mainspace. But,
 * 1. If this was deleted before via deletion discussion I vote it should be deleted via G4
 * 2. If this was deleted before via CSD I vote it shoud be kept because it seems to count as notable.  IShadowed  ✰  20:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete and allow back if notability can ever be properly sourced. I prettied the article up a bit before coming here to comment. His background fails WP:ENT and there is nothing to be found about hin in reliable sources. Twitter, Myspace, and IMDB just don't do it.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per above, though it appears to have been CSD'd every time, so can't use G4.  fetch  comms  ☛ 22:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice against future recreation, if notability standards are met. However, the subject does not seem to meet inclusion requirements at this time; relevant G-hits were minimal and as Schmidt points out, reliable sources were almost nonexistent. Finally, although not directly related to AfD guidelines, the strong appearance that this is an article-for-pay is disturbing and might reasonably be taken into account when closing. Doc  Tropics  21:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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