Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey Carbone


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   nomination withdrawn. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Joey Carbone

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Doesn't have any sources and I haven't found many that seem reliable or that can verify a lot of the info here. It is also an autobiography. Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 01:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 01:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: It's possible the subject could end up being notable if some decent sources are found. I know that the people who participate in these discussions generally are very good at finding them if they exist, which is why I thought it'd be best to start this discussion. The page is in a very poor state so I figured it'd be best to find out whether or not it should even be a page before anyone spends time trying to clean it up. Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 01:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm not sure "I want you guys to look up references" is an actual criterion for deletion. The article did have references in earlier revisions. I wish there was a simple "delete anything started as an autobiography" criterion, but there's not. The references there are to such sources as Rafu Shimpo, a publication that has apparently been around since at least 1928 and likely passes the test of RS; The Japan Times probably does as well. Lack of verifiability is a reason to edit the article down to what is verifiable, not a basis for deletion. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Response: There were signs that the subject may not be notable: written by subject, no references, and I was unsure of the reliability of the few references I found from searching. That is why I nominated it here so that a discussion could take place on the notability and reliable sources could be identified if they exist. It looks like that is what happened so this discussion was beneficial. Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 00:25, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * There's also an entire article about him in the Los Angeles Times.  Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 16:52, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article is sourced at this time. Topic passes WP:GNG, so a Wikipedia article is in order:
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 14:04, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, → B  music  ian  11:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn by nom: per the sources identified as reliable.   Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 00:27, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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