Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey Curtis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Yuser31415 00:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Joey Curtis

 * – (View AfD) (View log)

Boxing referee who refereed a couple of famous fights, which does not satisfy WP:BIO or WP:N. Only ref is obituary, which is not multiple reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a memorial. Few Google hits except for Wikipedia and sites which mirror Wikipedia. Inkpaduta 21:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep more because I can't really decide and one should err on the side of not making permanent decisions (such as deletion) lightly. Yes, the article in its current form fails WP:BIO for lack of citations of notability, but just a quick google search shows (on page 1) a New York Times profile on him and an article on his most memorable event from a reputable boxing news website.  Keep in mind WP:BIO states "The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field." as a valid criteria.  It seems from a quick glance that he had at least one particularly notable effect on the sport of boxing, distinguishing him in his field. Article needs more citations, but I say it should be given a chance. -Markeer 02:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Add some good inline refs and it will be a far better article. It seems to be based only on an obit so far. Inkpaduta 04:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks,


 * Weak Keep while the person could pass WP:BIO the article does not include any references that could substantiate this, causing a problem with WP:V. Sources should be included if the article survives this AfD to avoid a second or third nomination Alf photoman 16:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I will add the NY Times profile to the article, giving him as references 1)an obit and a 2) a2 paragraph article in the New York Times. Is that enough to satisfy WP:N? The Ringsidereport website is about a fighter and only gives Curtis a 1 sentence passing reference. Not being a "primary subject" and not being substantial coverage, it does not support notability. As nominator I would still call it a weak delete. The obituary claims he was an inductee in the International Boxing Hall of Fame, but their website does not list him. Perhaps some other hall of fame? Are there more sources? Was he notable during his boxing career? Is he in boxing reference books? Inkpaduta 19:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.