Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey Karam


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Joey Karam

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No indication that this topic is notable, absolute lack of third-party coverage. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 21:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve through normal editing. Notability guideline WP:MUSICBIO says that a musician is assumed to be notable if a member of 2 or more notable ensembles. This person has been a member of three notable groups. The article needs better references but should not be deleted. Cullen328 (talk) 21:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The two bands of his aren't notable. One of them is up for CSD right now, the other one is questionable at best. If the other one is CSD'd (or AfD'd) that makes this guy easily fail MUSICBIO. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 22:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The nominator said "absolute lack of third party coverage". I see a description of his style in the Village Voice, a mention in the Rolling Stone, many other newspaper mentions of varying quality, foreign language newspaper coverage, and mention in a variety of books and magazines.  As long as articles about those three bands stands, this musician should be presumed to be notable per the clear language in the guideline. Cullen328 (talk) 23:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I see no such information. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 00:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * "Before nominating due to sourcing or notability concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources don't exist." WP:BEFORE Francis Bond (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC).


 * http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-04-23/music/music/ "The Locust's songs don't have hooks in the conventional sense; even Joey Karam's keyboards provide insectoid creepiness rather than melodic definition."
 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rage-singer-zack-de-la-rocha-debuts-new-band-20100719 "Throughout the show, Karam made his bank of vintage keyboards sound uncannily like a guitar, a neat inversion of Rage axman Tom Morello's trademark guitar-as-synth trick."
 * Looks like independent coverage to me. Keep --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:04, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per SarekOfVulcan. This is case of failure to do background work before nomination. Bearian (talk) 20:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it? Still no refs in the article. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 20:54, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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