Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey Sturgis


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The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 09:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Joey Sturgis

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No indication of notability, no significant coverage in reliable sources. Of all the sources in the article, the interview is the only one that writes so much as a single sentence about Sturgis. The article was prodded for these reasons, the prod was removed by User:Joeyismusic without improvement. Huon (talk) 22:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  00:03, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

*Delete A single interview does not establish notability, and is a primary source. I see no fully independent coverage in reliable sources. Producing recordings by notable performers does not, in itself, confer notability. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Change to Keep, based on the best of the sources brought forward in this debate. Thanks to those who have done so. No one needs to insult me to get me to change my recommendation. Just show me the sources. Thanks. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Joey is a worldwide known producer and this page is incredibly educational to many, it's a great source for people wanting to find previous work of Joeys, it is also a 100% accurate source which is great for students of music wishing to do assignments/reports on him, if you do not believe he is notable then maybe you should check this http://www.allmusic.com/artist/joey-sturgis-mn0000938432/credits — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.193.149 (talk) 02:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC) Notability is doing something significant and therefore affects other people. He has worked with people to help there music which in turn is listened to by thousands of people. The simple factor of googling a name and having actual photos and information confirms popularity or knowledge about that one person or thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.231.8 (talk) 02:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Here are some news articles: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm http://geargods.net/features/interview-joey-sturgis/ http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/blessthefall_recording_new_album_with_joey_sturgis http://www.revolvermag.com/?s=joey+sturgis&x=0&y=0 http://www.underthegunreview.net/2014/03/11/utg-exclusive-producer-joey-sturgis-picks-his-10-favorite-projects/ http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/ http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=353812 http://mindequalsblown.net/interviews/interview-joey-sturgis http://blog.haulix.com/post/76985145531/industry-spotlight-joey-sturgis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeyismusic (talk • contribs) 02:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. The new Sound On Sound article and the earlier Vents magazine article combine to satisfy WP:GNG. Binksternet (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Joey is the reason countless bands have been successful. You have to be just picking on him because you got butthurt if you think he isn't notable. He's the biggest name producer in the modern metal scene.

Joey Sturgis is arguably one of the most successful, prolific and influential producers in metal music. By definition, notability is "A person of distinction or great reputation" as stated here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/notable By that logic, someone who has had a visible and prominent influence in the creation, development and evolution of one hugely popular genre of music in the last five years is inarguably notable. His credentials include Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack, The Devil Wears Prada, Emmure and We Came As Romans among others; all of which are established and hugely popular acts. For clarification of this statement, please refer to each band's respective Wiki pages, Facebook pages or simply Google them. Without him, these bands would arguably have had a largely different sound (due to his involvement in the writing, producing, recording and mixing of their albums) and as such, we can conclude that metal music would have an indescribably different landscape. Joey's work is integral to the success of these artists and the defining of an entire niche of modern music, and to argue that this does not quantify notability seems biased.

Joey will be appearing on Creative Live as seen here: https://www.creativelive.com/conferences/mastering-metal-mixing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.5.173 (talk) 11:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

For more info on Joey Sturgis...

Gold Record Mentions:

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-asking-alexandria-the-final-episode/

http://gigzealot.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://musicexistence.com/blog/2014/04/29/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://uglyscene.com/2014/04/30/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://ventsmagazine.com/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://altrocklive.com/blog/2014/04/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://ignitemusicmag.com/2014/04/28/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

http://fifteenminutemedia.tumblr.com/page/2

http://www.arfadia.com/blog/view/84965530971/Joey+Sturgis+Receives+Gold+Record+for+work+with+Asking+Alexandria

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/04/28/joey-sturgis-receives-gold-record-for-work-with-asking-alexandria/

Interviews:

http://geargods.net/features/interview-joey-sturgis/

http://thewellzstreetjournal.com/2013/11/20/interview-with-joey-sturgis-producer-at-foundation-recording-studios/

http://mindequalsblown.net/interviews/interview-joey-sturgis

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/

http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=353812

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2014/03/11/utg-exclusive-producer-joey-sturgis-picks-his-10-favorite-projects/

http://blog.haulix.com/post/76985145531/industry-spotlight-joey-sturgis

http://audiogeekzine.com/2010/07/exclusive-interview-with-music-producer-joey-sturgis/

http://www.killthemusic.net/blog/interview-joey-sturgis

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Joey-Sturgis/1566411725

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/11345208/joey_sturgis_interview/

http://thepit-se.com/2014/02/12/backstage-pass-joey-sturgis/

http://getinmedia.com/articles/music-careers/joey-sturgis-producing-heavy-metal-box

Articles on Joey:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/crown_the_empire_enter_the_studio_with_joey_sturgis -  has a mention posted from Rise Records

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep14/articles/joey-sturgis.htm

Here are a few of his products he has released and where they have been mentioned.

Pixelator:

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-audio-processor/

http://ventsmagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new-audio-processor/

http://www.caesarlivenloud.com/2014/07/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new.html

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/producer-joey-sturgis-releases-brand-new-audio-processor-pixelator/

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/938543-joey-sturgis-pixelator-plugin.html

http://en.audiofanzine.com/plugin-lo-fi/jst/pixelator/news/a.play,n.18481.html

http://www.magesy.xyz/55000-joey-sturgis-tones-pixelator-v1.0.3-win.html

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator---audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction-26538

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin/

http://makehiphop.com/2014/07/02/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction/

http://audiok.info/joey-sturgis-tones-pixelator-v103-vst-x86-x64-win

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-pixelator-29-06-14

http://beta.producerlabs.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin

http://smashyorecords.co.uk/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-for-sound-design-and-destruction/

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29847319-Joey-Sturgis-Pixelator-Plugin.html

http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-new-audio-processor

http://synthwise.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-audio-resolution-manipulator-sound-design-and-destruction/2014/07/02

Clip:

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/joey-sturgis-releases-jst-clip/46197

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip-peak-clipper-plug-in-25677

http://www.sonicscoop.com/2014/04/16/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip-plugin-peak-clipper-for-mixing-mastering/

http://hangout.altsounds.com/news/165520-gear-joey-sturgis-releases-peak-clipper-jst.html

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2014/04/18/peak-clipper-plug-in/

http://www.steppingoutrecords.com/news/music-blog/entry/gear-joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/920620-joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip.html

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-jst-clip-clipper/

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-brand-audio-processor/

http://www.caesarlivenloud.com/2014/04/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper.html

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29766974-Joey-Sturgis-Tones-releases-JST-Clip-Peak-Clipper-Plug-In.html

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-clip-08-04-14

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3290723/joey-sturgis-mind-behind-music-interview/

http://smashyorecords.blogspot.com/2014/04/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-clip-peak.html

http://www.1200dreams.com/news/208/joey-sturgis-introduces-jst-clip

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=9326

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in/

http://ampsandgreenscreens.tumblr.com/post/83163696751/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/04/18/joey-sturgis-releases-new-peak-clipper-jst-clip-plug-in/

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/04/14/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-jst-clip/

http://mixingmastering.co.uk/joey-sturgis-introduces-jst-clip-plugin/

Gain Reduction:

http://www.sonicscoop.com/2014/02/25/joey-sturgis-releases-signature-vocal-compressor-saturator-plugin-gain-reduction/

http://www.hellhoundmusic.com/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/joey_sturgis_releases_new_vocal_plug_in_guitar_giveaway

http://www.recordingmag.com/news/display/890.html

http://rekkerd.org/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-pixelator-plugin/

http://amplified.tv/joey-sturgis-releases-new-plug-in/

http://www.moinf.info/news/joey-sturgis-gain-reduction-04-02-14

http://skopemag.com/2014/02/04/new-video-by-jst-gain-reduction

http://www.audio-desk.com/joey-sturgis-tones-releases-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://pluggedinpromotions.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://newnoisemagazine.com/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://geargods.net/review/review-joey-sturgis-tones-gain-reduction-plug/

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/02/25/joey-sturgis-releases-gain-reduction-vocal-plugin/

http://bravewords.com/news/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor

http://www.bigcitythoughts.com/newsreviews/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=9090

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/903580-joey-sturgis-gain-reduction-plugin.html

http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-quotgain-reductionquot-vocal-compressor

http://reviewsfromthecave.com/4334/joey-sturgis-releases-groundbreaking-gain-reduction-vocal-compressor/

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/gain-reduction-plugin-promises-to-be-your-new-go-to-compressor-for-vocals-594254

Drumforge:

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now/47885

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=3698740

http://www.alt-uk.net/2014/05/05/joey-sturgis-drumforge-now-available-for-pre-order/

http://musicupdated.com/news/7239/joey-sturgis-to-release-%22drumforge%22-sample-library

http://www.rockstarsglued.com/2014/05/05/introducing-drumforge-a-revolution-in-drum-samples/

http://shuffler.fm/artists/drumforge

http://forum.studio.se/index.php/topic/106310-drumforge-joey-sturgis-egna-trumplug/

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/introducing_drumforge_a_revolution_in_drum_samples

http://www.toddstarphotography.com/blog/2014/6/news-drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now

http://en.zicos.com/proaudio/i29842528-Introducing-Drumforge.html

http://ignitemusicmag.com/2014/06/30/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now-features-over-50-unique-drum-instruments/

http://www.arfadia.com/blog/view/86468252155/Making+Sure+Our+Stereo+Spread+Is+Wide+Drumforge

http://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/1183/drumforge-sample-library-available-now/31088

http://newnoisemagazine.com/drumforge-modular-sample-library-now-features-50-unique-drum-instruments/

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/937839-introducing-drumforge.html

http://ventsmagazine.com/drumforge-modular-sample-library-available-now-features-over-50-unique-drum-instruments/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick Mohrhauser (talk • contribs) 19:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Far better to add the highest quality of the sources, like that Sound on Sound piece, to the actual article than listing dozens of them here as bare URLs, . Please read WP:CITATION OVERKILL and WP:TLDR. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  21:08, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per newfound sources.-- danntm T C 20:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

"Highest Quality" sources are always going to be debateable unless Wiki puts out a list of publications it considers to be highest quality. You must admit that it is really annoying to attack a page for not having enough sources, and then when more sources are provided in its defense you are requesting "only the highest quality" sources. What happens when the highest quality sources are given, will you have some other complaint about how there are too many or the highest quality sources aren't valid or they are out of date or they're not in the right format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.5.173 (talk) 01:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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