Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johannes Kretz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. clear consensus to keep after the relisting  DGG ( talk ) 09:00, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Johannes Kretz

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Insufficiently notable. CoolieCoolster (talk) 23:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not notable enough to be included in English Wikipedia. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball 07:44, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 *  Delete Weak Keep My searching did find an interview but that doesn't help notability. The article sources provide some depth but that all seems to be self sourced like this. Fails WP:COMPOSER. The awards are notable and perhaps well known. Which may be enough to satisfy WP:ANYBIO.  Gab4gab (talk) 16:47, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment He did win the Austrian State Prize for Music in 2004. I've added the ref for that to the article. He also won the Theodor Körner Prize in 2004, but I can't find an online reference for that from the official site because it only has archives back to 2008. But these would indicate some notability. Voceditenore (talk) 11:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Is he still an active composer? If not, I fail to see the point in keeping an article on a nominally notable Austrian composer from the past. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball 09:40, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Notability is not temporary. Voceditenore (talk) 16:24, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep – A listing at the Music Information Center Austria (here) shows encyclopedic relevance. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep – just added some references to the article. Being a) head of the composition department of Europe's largest music university and b) Vice president of Austria's ISCM section should add some insights regarding relevance. AthanasiusKircher (talk) 08:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 18:12, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:CREATIVE and Voceditenore. Let's assume the article is not misleading (as the other info seems to be correct) and he won both prizes. These appear to be/are among the highest such Austrian national awards in Kretz's field that he could win. But even just the Austrian State Prize for Music only would suffice, as a significant Austrian music award. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Austrian State Prize is sufficient claim to notability under ANYBIO1, which is now sourced. I'm seeing some results in Google books link. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: Now suitable sourced. Prizes are enough to indicate notability. TheMagikCow (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: Needs clean-up but otherwise meets WP:CREATIVE more generally WP:ANYBIO — Iadmc  ♫ talk  19:30, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CREATIVE, and, as said by other editors above, Austrian State Prize is plenty notable enough. 69.165.196.103 (talk) 03:53, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


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