Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Avery Emison


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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 23:29, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

John Avery Emison

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I wasn't able to find coverage about the subject in reliable sources other than the cited source mentioning his election as Alamo, Tennessee mayor, and a review of his book criticizing Abraham Lincoln's legacy in a source of unclear reliability. Per WP:NPOLITICIAN, politicians below the state level are not a priori considered notable unless they also meet another guideline; this subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG. The initial editor also appears to be someone with a clear COI based on their username. signed,Rosguill talk 23:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete Doesn't meet WP:NPOLITICIAN, there is no sustained coverage of him to establish notability and one of the sources used is literally the author's amazon page. GPL93 (talk) 00:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Comment It would also appear that the subject has used this account to add his books to "further reading" sections of pages as a means of promotion. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:57, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Thetown he is mayor of has about 3,000 population. The usual level for coverage is somewhere between 50,000 and 1000,000.  DGG ( talk ) 03:37, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the population is under 3,000. The guy is a fringe crackpot author. To have an article on such writers we require good sourcing which is lacking here. Even cities over 100,000 you need to both show a mayor with power and generally still need good sourcing. The city I used to live in before I moved to Detroit, Sterling Heights, had a population of 130,000 or more, but we deleted the article on the mayor, since he was really just the well titled city council president with no actual executive power beyond any other council member.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Alamo TN is nowhere near large enough to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability just for existing, but is referenced nowhere near well enough to get him over WP:NPOL. People also don't get over our notability standards for writers just because you can "reference" the existence of their book to an online bookstore, or as activists just because you can "reference" a YouTube video of them making a speech — for all of these things, the notability test is the reception of reliable source coverage in real media, and this isn't showing anything close to enough of that. Bearcat (talk) 03:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NPOL.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:27, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. Pointless stub with a possible COI. No one here has even considered a vote for keep, so let's close this soon as noncontroversial. &#8213; Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖  04:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete His 2 books were published by a real publisher and did get a few mentions as "conspiracy theory," but I only see one book review, in a regional daily. His position as Mayor of of a tiny town does almost nothing to support notability (although I am charmed to have learned not only that there is a town named Alamo, Tennessee, and that it is located in Crockett County).  He does get statewide coverage for heading up something called "No on 2," a political campaign to oppose Ammendment 2 in the statewide elections in 21014; and for founding a PAC "John Avery Emison announced The Citizens for Home Rule Political Action Committee’s endorsement of Bobby Wood for ..." inthe 2018 elections.  There is more coverage than Nom and editors commenting above seem ot be aware of.  Despite conspiracy theory books, he may well become notable if his statewide political activities (quite a few sources beyond what  I have mentioned,) continue to attract coverage.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)


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