Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Barry Ryan


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The result was   delete. Secret account 04:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

John Barry Ryan

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Delete: Non-notable; only notability even claimed is as the grandfather of an aristocrat. Quis separabit?  00:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete; fails WP:AUTHOR - no references to support assertions of notability. hmssolent \Let's convene My patrols 02:42, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - for the sake of clarity, I've split the article up a bit with more sub-headings. It's pretty clear that the article is less about the subject than it is about his children. If either of the children mentioned (2/10) are notable, then we should consider creating articles for them. But having an article for the father just to summarise the lives of two marginally notable children is a bit pointless. Stalwart 111  02:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * His granddaughter, Virginia Ogilvy, Countess of Airlie, has an article. Quis separabit?  16:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I had noticed that. I suppose that just makes me even more sure about deletion. We generally don't accept arguments that notability might be inherited and that is usually in relation to parents/children. Grandparents/grandchildren is another step again. Stalwart 111  06:07, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No absolutely. I wasn't trying to change your mind. I nominated the article for deletion, after all. I was just establishing that there is no nexus to notability just because his granddaughter married an aristocrat. Quis separabit?  16:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No, understood that - we're both on the same page I think! Stalwart 111  21:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. No sourcing whatsoever to satisfy WP:AUTHOR or WP:BK. Borders on WP:HOAX. Qworty (talk) 05:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - No significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. Fails WP:AUTHOR — Joaquin008  ( talk ) 09:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


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