Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Bartlett (racing driver)


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Star  Mississippi  12:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

John Bartlett (racing driver)

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Notability not demonstrated. I find a couple of passing references to Bartlett in reliable sources, but nothing substantial. See discussion at Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 08:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMOTORSPORT.  The C of E God Save the King!  ( talk ) 08:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Though WSCC and IMSA are not explicitly listed in WP:NMOTORSPORT they are "significant international motorsport series" (as mentioned in the second bullet point). NuIotaChi (talk) 13:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Sportspeople, Motorsport,  and England.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  10:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Some coverage about being jailed: . Also . Feels like there should be more coverage... BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * My name is John Bartlett (the John Bartlett you are discussing). I have just been alerted to this situation. I'm not very internet savvy so not sure if I'm supposed to even comment but have been directed to this discussion.
 * Having now viewed the various comments here I thought I should perhaps point out that my actual blog/website already has my medical history published (including the MRI scans somebody mentioned, which in fact have my name on the top of the scan, albeit very small). The MRI scan on my website site is bigger so it's easier to see my name.
 * Re the other "John Bartlett" someone referred to as owning a US hockey team (I think). That person bears no relation to me, so is clearly a different John Bartlett! I therefore have no idea if what is being said about him owning a hockey team in the US is correct or not.
 * I spent most of my racing career in the world sports car championship/world endurance championship, generally considered (at the time) to be one tier below F1. My blog also has a lot of my career facts/history/documents etc. Most of my former racing history is in paper form in book/reference books (such as the various Official Le Mans Yearbooks) etc.
 * As to the person questioning something about my company, Maidstone Scuba, if you look at the 'Meet our team of PADI instructors' on the website, you'll see I am still the Director of Maidstone Scuba School, althow I have just seen that I am shown as being 61, which is incorrect.
 * Because what happened to me back in 1993/4, I have always freely publish (albeit with helpers) everything. Therefore everything mentioned about me is already in the public domain and therefore their is no breach of any copyright.
 * I'm now almost 70, and anything internet is usually handled for me by various very kind 'helpers'.
 * I'm not a lot of good at any of this internet stuff but can be contacted by old-fashioned phone . I attempted to add my email address but it wont allow me to do that! Their is a messaging system on Maidstone Scuba so you can contact me on that if needed. if I can assist any further.
 * John 77.101.199.59 (talk) 20:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi John. Do you know whether you have been covered in-depth in independent sources? E.g. stories focusing about you in newspapers, racing magazines, etc.? If so, let us know and that could be able to rescue the article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:29, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, there will be lots of stuff but I'd have to search through boxes and I'm about to leave tomorrow for Birmingham for a protest outside the offices of the CCRC on Friday (we're hoping it might hit the headlines)!
 * I do remember putting a Post of a German magazine on my Facebook page a few years ago (probably 2014/15) that did a feature of some sort about me but I have no idea what it said, as it was all in German, but it did have various photos of my Team. I have enough trouble with english as I'm very dyslexic!
 * I will defiantly have Le Mans year books for 84/85/86/87 (the years we ran) but I'll have to find them, probably in the roof!
 * I do know Penthouse Magazine (who were sponsoring us that year) ran a full a 2 page article on us in 1987. I suspect it was published in the July or Aug edition, as Le Mans would have been June.  I'll see if I can at least find the German article for a start but it probably won't be until I get back.  Thanks, John 77.101.199.59 (talk) 21:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That should have been "definitely", not defiantly!!!
 * Anyway, I've found it, but still no idea what it says. It was 'RTL GP magazine' and I put it on my facebook page on 3rd Feb 2015. On the front cover it mentions Features on Lamborghini, De Tomaso and Bardon, a car we ran in 85/86/87 in WSPC. The Bardon was the Group C car I developed in 1996. The name was a mix of BAR (me) and DON (Robin Donovan). Robin was one of my regular co-drivers and is listed on Wikipedia.
 * I have just re posted the magazine on my Facebook page as a memory.
 * Hope this helps but I'm going to be away until next week now (longer if I'm arrested)!
 * John 77.101.199.59 (talk) 21:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I added the message below to BeanieFan11 last night but I don't know if you also got to see that message? I will now be away until next week but I have added my direct contact info below. John
 * My name is John Bartlett (the John Bartlett you are discussing). I have just been alerted to this situation. I'm not very internet savvy so not sure if I'm supposed to even comment but have been directed to this discussion.
 * Having now viewed the various comments here I thought I should perhaps point out that my actual blog/website already has my medical history published (including the MRI scans somebody mentioned, which in fact have my name on the top of the scan, albeit very small). The MRI scan on my website site is bigger so it's easier to see my name.
 * Re the other "John Bartlett" someone referred to as owning a US hockey team (I think). That person bears no relation to me, so is clearly a different John Bartlett! I therefore have no idea if what is being said about him owning a hockey team in the US is correct or not.
 * I spent most of my racing career in the world sports car championship/world endurance championship, generally considered (at the time) to be one tier below F1. My blog also has a lot of my career facts/history/documents etc. Most of my former racing history is in paper form in book/reference books (such as the various Official Le Mans Yearbooks) etc.
 * As to the person questioning something about my company, Maidstone Scuba, if you look at the 'Meet our team of PADI instructors' on the website, you'll see I am still the Director of Maidstone Scuba School, althow I have just seen that I am shown as being 61, which is incorrect.
 * Because what happened to me back in 1993/4, I have always freely publish (albeit with helpers) everything. Therefore everything mentioned about me is already in the public domain and therefore their is no breach of any copyright.
 * I'm now almost 70, and anything internet is usually handled for me by various very kind 'helpers'.
 * I'm not a lot of good at any of this internet stuff but can be contacted by old-fashioned phone ([REDACTED]). I attempted to add my email address but it wont allow me to do that! Their is a messaging system on Maidstone Scuba so you can contact me on that if needed. if I can assist any further.
 * John 77.101.199.59 (talk) 07:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Read your message. I'll see if I look into the German article / Facebook post soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Per Beanie's request, and as there is currently no consensus Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  00:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting per request at WP:Requests_for_undeletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen&times; &#9742;  08:56, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * To closer: request relisting to allow for more time to research. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment - propose closure of this AfD so that the normal BLP process can continue elsewhere on the talkpage and WP:BLPN per WP:BIOSELF JMWt (talk) 10:43, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I've posted some potential sources on the article talk page. Porterjoh (talk) 15:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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