Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Bruce Yeh


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 18:08, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

John Bruce Yeh

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Does not meet WP:NMUSIC. Has been tagged since 2009. Although a member of the Chicago Symphony, there is little independent coverage. MB 04:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep – The first search result, http://interlochenpublicradio.org/post/live-studio-john-bruce-yeh#stream/0 at the Interlochen Center for the Arts mentions he founded the New York New Music Ensemble, won a Grammy, and released more than a dozen recordings. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a press-release to advertise a performance. It is not independent nor reliable. The source does not say he "founded" the NYNEM, but was a "founding member" of the NYNEM.  If this is true, it is not mentioned at the New York New Music Ensemble, which itself is unreferenced and probably not notable anyway. I don't believe he won a Grammy because there is no other coverage of this and he is not listed in the Grammy database . Volume of recordings alone not significant per WP:NMUSIC. MB 14:53, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * MB, the New York New Music Ensemble is a very well-known ensemble with multiple reviews in the New York Times, and have commissioned and premiered many new works. The fact that its WP article is lousy is immaterial. And yes, the ensemble which he founded and is the Director of did win a Grammy. See the reference below provided and my comments. Voceditenore (talk) 15:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Assistant principal clarinet wih the Chicago Symphony, satisfies WP:BIO and WP:N with multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources such as  Chicago Tribune Edison (talk) 01:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This Chicago Tribune article does not appear at all to be significant coverage of Yeh. Where he is mentioned, it is mostly quotes of him talking about others. The story is not about Yeh at all, although it does provide a few facts about him. MB 02:36, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - the only reference is a press release. There is no showing of notability.--Rpclod (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. He was the director of Chicago Pro Musica, which did win the 1985 Grammy for Best New Classical Artist, for what that's worth. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep There are many reviews singling out his performances in the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, etc. . Most are behind a paywall at HighBeam. However, I have a subscription and amongst others also found a lengthy 1993 feature article devoted to him in the Chicago Sun-Times . Add to this his recordings as a soloist on Cedille Records, Newport Classic, Koch International Classics, etc., being the Director of an ensemble (Chicago Pro Musica) that won a Grammy, and principal clarinetist of a major symphony orchestra, he passes several criteria of WP:MUSICBIO. Voceditenore (talk) 11:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Update I have now expanded and referenced this article to multiple sources, including reviews of his recordings. MB and Rpclod, did either of you observe WP:BEFORE before opining "delete" simply on the basis of what was in the article. There are multiple links at the top of this AfD, and it's quite clear that they were not consulted in any kind of depth. Voceditenore (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:BEFORE applies by its very terms to nomination, not !vote. However, I still do not find adequate support for notability and do not appreciate condescending responses.--Rpclod (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.