Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Caputo (hockey)


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The result was Delete. Randykitty (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

John Caputo (hockey)

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Only two sources, both of questionable reliability and neither independent of the subject, so notability is not established. Noyster  (talk),  20:11, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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This is John Caputo from Perth Western Australia www.caputo.com.au / www.caputoactivitybooks.com.au not the John Caputo from NSW who was caught up in the political scandal whom you have mentioned - two different characters years apart in age. The Current President Paul MCcann paul.mccann@westnet.com.au 0408 366 015 of the Perth Western Australia Ice hockey League www.icewa.com.au will verify and update John P Caputo's contribution and success to the Sport of Ice Hockey & In line Hockey very soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eternityisreal (talk • contribs)
 * Delete: This is a tough one to research. Even searching on the Australian Google for "John Caputo" + hockey turned up hits for a Massachusetts high school coach and a current Div III college player.  Over in Australia, the search term is fouled by a political fundraiser by the same name in a recent scandal, where another actor is the New South Wales state treasurer, whose surname is Hockey. (Seriously.) For this fellow, though, all I've found is that he's a real estate broker in Perth.  That the article's been worked on by three SPAs for whom this is the sole Wikipedia activity, the degree to which it's promotional cheerleading, the complete lack of reliable sources, the fact that it's a BLP, and that no presumptive notability is conferred on Australian hockey players, this is an easy Delete.   Ravenswing   01:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Looks to be almost completely unsourced original research. CorporateM (Talk) 02:52, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: Unfortunately, that's not likely to be sufficient to save the article. Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for whether an athlete is notable enough to merit an article are what counts.  The pertinent rule is WP:NHOCKEY, which would accord Caputo presumptive notability only if he'd played in the Olympics (Australia competed in ice hockey in the Olympics only once, in 1960) or in the Championship division of the World Championships (which Australia never has).  In any event, according to Ice Hockey Australia's listings, Caputo never has played for the national team. As per WP:NHOCKEY/LA, our league assessment rule, Australian professional hockey is not considered noteworthy enough for presumptive notability.  Neither does, according to the Sports Wikiproject, inline hockey play confer notability. That leaves WP:GNG, which holds that a subject who has received "significant coverage" in multiple, reliable, independent, third-party sources is considered notable.  Should several links to newspaper interviews with Mr. Caputo be presented -- and I couldn't find a single one -- that's what it would take.  Mr. Mccann's good offices notwithstanding, Wikipedia articles are based on verifiable evidence, not on someone vouching for the subject.   Ravenswing   20:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, this is the editor for John Caputo (hockey) article. I have added another source. Is this one okay with you now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EWEshaw (talk • contribs) We contacted the president of the Australian Ice Hockey association, Clive Connelly. He noted they only started recording the players names that represented Australia & participated in the In-line Hockey World Championships since 2004. Otherwise we would be able to link John Caputo to the 2000 in-line hockey team that he participated in. We are in the process of collecting all the players names. Once done maybe then you will see that this entry is valid and worthy of noting.
 * Not to sustain notability, no; especially since following the link, it's an unpublished book. What we're looking for by way of sources is for Caputo to have been discussed in "significant detail" -- is there a feature article on him in The West Australian or the Sydney Morning Herald, for instance?  If you're looking to pass WP:AUTHOR, has he written any bestsellers or had a book be made into a feature film?  We've posted a few links already pointing to various guideline for notability, and I urge you to look them over before proceeding.   Ravenswing   03:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 16:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: Ten days now after this was filed, and the only dissenters are (presumably) Mr. Caputo himself and another SPA, neither of whom have been able to provide a single valid, reliable source supporting notability. High time to close.   Ravenswing   05:52, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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