Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Clemence Gordon Brown


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

John Clemence Gordon Brown

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Unreferenced stub for 15 years. Fails WP:BIO. Those wanting to keep should provide evidence of actual sources. LibStar (talk) 00:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 00:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't find much in newspapers, besides this photo and small caption . Oaktree b (talk) 01:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: I've found the following sources on Newspapers.com . Basically just notes that he was appointed with zero detail. A part of me would say "Redirect to Canada–Democratic Republic of the Congo relations" but it's so far gone back in the day that I don't think we can argue for that. Per WP:DIPLOMAT (which IMO is a well-formed coherent argument and essay), a head of mission is not inherently notable, and it seems clearly that our friend John Clemence is not. Nomader  ( talk ) 05:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also want to make clear that I searched Google Books, JSTOR, and just searched all over in general and came up with nothing. Would kill for some Congolese sources here... Nomader  ( talk ) 05:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Rwanda,  and Cyprus.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Maybe the person who created this thought it would qualify under WP:NPOL as an "international office"? I don't think it does. Nweil (talk) 15:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and dived into the 2014 discussion on this which created the text at WP:DIPLOMAT so you don't have to (trust me it is very meandering). Suffice to say, there was originally a carve out at WP:POLITICIAN that specifically excluded ambassadors. This was removed as being too strict (not precluding the creation of articles about them), but instead WP:DIPLOMAT rightly notes that if a specific ambassador doesn't meet the notability requirements, they can be redirected to that country's relations page. Only problem being... our friend here has been ambassador twice. Luckily I think that in this case, the notability (or lack thereof) seems to be very clear, and I think that we're safe with a straight delete, due to his not very notable stature. Nomader  ( talk ) 03:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Shadow of the Starlit Sky   (talk)  17:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. The article subject fails WP:GNG. Shawn Teller (talk) 01:22, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


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