Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Cox (aviation expert)


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

John Cox (aviation expert)

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Can't find good enough coverage for WP:NBIO. There's a USA Today interview, cited in the article, but that's of course not independent at all. On newspapers.com I only found passing mentions and brief quotations from him cited as an aviation guy. Ovinus (talk) 18:43, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Ovinus (talk) 18:43, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:08, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete While the subject may be frequently consulted for aviation-related media, this doesn't make him notable.  My own search didn't turn up anything that could be used to augment this article.  A loose necktie (talk) 01:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I'm surprised that the creation of this page was even controversial. How is John Cox any less notable than, say, Greg Feith? In fact, one can argue that Cox is even more notable and decorated than Feith. I think this should be assessed by people who are more in tune with the aviation industry than Wikipedians who are less familiar with Cox's omnipresence within aviation-related media. Electricmaster (talk) 02:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I took a look at Feith's article to compare, and I'll respond. In its current state, Feith's article is in sorry shape.  I could go and slap a fair number of citation needed tags on there.  But looking at the list of awards, and putting things in the best, most optimistic light, I would expect to find some coverage in Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine for his Laurel Award, even though it's not currently cited.  Same goes for the Embry-Riddle Distinguished Alumni Award, even though it's not cited.   Looking at Cox, none of the awards are cited either, but none of them seem to be especially likely to have been widely reported in anything other than press releases. (I think "distinguished alumni award" trumps "outstanding MBA graduate" in significance).  Finding non-PR coverage of at least a couple of them might tip the arguments towards keep.  RecycledPixels (talk) 00:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * When Ive got time I’ll try to tidy up the Feith article with sources. Ovinus (talk) 01:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Like it or not, we're not a phone catalogue for "experts". Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 15:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * i understand that what i wrote above might be slightly derogatory, and i apologise for that. However, i still think that this person is just not notable enough, and stand by my original vote. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 23:02, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG.  Show me a couple of reliable sources with in-depth coverage about him, not just mentioning or quoting him, and I'll happily change my argument.  RecycledPixels (talk) 00:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of any significant notability. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk 13:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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