Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John D. Haines


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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 23:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

John D. Haines

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WP:BLP of an addictions counsellor, which rests half on primary sources (own webpage, own LinkedIn, etc.), and half on glancing namechecks in media coverage of other things (thus failing to constitute substantive coverage which has him as its subject.) In addition, the article claims that he previously played for the Canadian Football League — but it fails to specify which CFL team he played for, which immediately twigged my suspicions, and indeed I can't find any verification of that claim anywhere. On a ProQuest "Canadian Newsstand Major Dailies" search, the only John Haines I can find anywhere near the sports pages in any Canadian newspaper published in the entire past 30 years was playing in the non-professional Maritime Football League rather than the CFL — and even Haines' own PR presence in his own primary sources just says he played professional football without specifying the CFL in particular. So I don't know if the CFL was just a faulty but good faith assumption on the part of the article creator, or a deliberate falsehood planted to create the false appearance of a free pass through the WP:ATHLETE gate — but either way, he didn't play in the CFL. But the MFL doesn't get him past ATHLETE, and the volume of reliable source coverage shown here doesn't get him past WP:GNG for his current job either. And furthermore, the article's dancing right on the edge of tipping over into an advertorial tone rather than an encyclopedic one — the "non-profits" section is especially egregious, but the whole thing has WP:NPOV-violating value adjectives and completely unsourced assertions of his personal feelings about things threaded through it. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 22:18, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nominator. 207.102.255.248 (talk) 23:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for now as I found nothing better. SwisterTwister   talk  05:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, I did find a reference regarding his football career: http://cms.cfl.mrx.ca:81/uploads/assets/TOR/History/All_Time_roster.pdf User:Bearcat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalina3112 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 6 October 2015 (UTC)