Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Edward Phelps


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

John Edward Phelps

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First speedied, then PROD is contested. User is attempting to use Wikipedia as a memorial it appears as he has created the same content as an article and as a copy to both his user and talk pages. So, per the WP is not a memorial policy, the article is up for deletion here. ArcAngel (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I did a search and was not able to find any reliable sources to establish notability of this person. ArcAngel (talk) 00:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete There is nothing currently in the article to say he is notable and I did not find anything is my search to establish notability.  GB fan  talk 01:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete He can always recreate the article if he finds sources. Racepacket (talk) 12:05, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * DO NOT DELETE As you will now notice there are several citations now noted. I may not be the best writer but John Edward Phelps was an artist for over 60 years. He Taught many students within Massachusetts as well as having his art put up in many art shows. He also published a book about the hidden murals in springfield. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kozmikgene (talk • contribs) 00:54, 14 October 2009
 * Hard one. I prod'd it after taking down the CSD, as my thought process was entirely in line with ArcAngel's argument above.  The author brings up one Springfield Republican news article about his work and one Longmeadow MA Reminder article that describes him as an artist of local renown.  Google reveals several references in local newspapers from Springfield to the CT line of the current exhibition of his work in Indian Orchard, MA.  There is no question that the exhibition (and subsequently the artist) meets WP:V which is the threshold for inclusion.  Whether the artist meets WP:N is a bit stickier.  Currently, I do not think that the current Indian Orchard Mills exhibition and the local coverage are enough to satisfy WP:ARTIST, and lean toward delete; however should the author identify any secondary sources regarding John Edward Phelps and his work outside of the recent exhibition, I think consideration should me made to keeping this -- Samir 01:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Again Do Not Delete It is pretty amazing to think that if we had computers in the 1850's that Van Gogh would not have been permitted to be honored on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kozmikgene (talk • contribs) 16:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Question "The mural at the museum of Natural history" if it was  a mural at the AMNH, he might be notable ( though the text says "restoring," not painting"). If it is the Springfield MNH, then probably not. What is needed here is a list of the major museum that display his work.    DGG ( talk ) 22:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)p

"After moving back to Western Massachusetts, he found work with fellow graduate Roger Wolcott on a Federal Arts Project commission to paint murals for the Hall of Man in the Springfield Museum of Natural History."```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.1.179 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 15 October 2009
 * Again Do Not DeleteDGG states that the text says he restored murals, below is a quote from the text. John and Roger Wolcott were commisioned under the FDR Grants to paint the murals at the Springfield Museum.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.