Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Elder Robison


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The result was keep. WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 09:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

John Elder Robison

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Most of the information in this article is in the book Look Me in the Eye and should be merged into this article. Relies too heavily on self-published sources. Ylevental (talk) 19:15, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Between the multiple books, the activism, and the highly talked about resignation, there's a lot of coverage.Darmokand (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Should I expand it? Ylevental (talk) 02:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Another bad faith nomination by this user per the AfD's for Jim Sinclair (activist), Retrospective diagnoses of autism and Autism Network International. 203.17.215.22 (talk) 04:23, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - Other recent nominations by the same editor: Wrong Planet, Autistic Pride Day, Aspies For Freedom, Amy Sequenzia, Autistic Self Advocacy Network... On the other side of the coin is the editor's COI GA nomination for Jonathan Mitchell (along with accusations of sock puppetry there. Do we perhaps need an ANI thread to straighten this out? - Sum mer PhD v2.0 20:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * , I've noticed the same thing. The only upside to all of the AfD nominations is that they are helping to further source the articles they nominated, but it's also frustrating. The common thread is that the nominator is targeting Autistic organizations that promote a "non cure" approach to dealing with autism, whereas Jonathan Mitchell wants to "cure" autism. It seems like these camps are diametrically opposed. Normally, I focus on women's bios, but I have family members with autism, so these AfD nominations have been troubling to me. I don't think an investigation is out of line. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ANI aside, what do the nominations have to do with you having family members with autism? I am on the spectrum too. Ylevental (talk) 01:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * , it means I'm interested in the topic, I thought that would be clear. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 04:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep According to reliable sources, he's known for more than being an author of the book. CatPath (talk) 15:54, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes GNG. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I fail to understand your reasoning for deletion, Ylevental. Third-party sources are quoted there and the guy is notable beyond his book. Zezen (talk) 23:05, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I am John Elder Robison, the subject of this article and page. I distressed to find that user Leventhal has seemingly mounted a campaign to destroy the usefulness of the page. I see some things have been removed for lack of citations, and other things on the page are wrong.

First of all, I see the information about my work in music was deleted for lack of references. The story of my work with KISS and Britannia Row (Pink Floyd's sound company in the 70s) was told in my book Look Me in the Eye and it's widely discussed online, etc. This link goes to a blog post of mine that offers some facts and photos of me and my work from that period. You are welcome to use the photos of me, my son, my late ex-wife, and my KISS stuff including my photo ID under the Wikimedia Creative Commons license on my page. http://jerobison.blogspot.com/p/the-kiss-guitars-and-my-life-in-music.html

The article says I was married twice. Actually I was married three times. 1st - Mary Lee Trompke (died 2014) who is the mother of my son Jack "Cubby" Robison  2nd - Martha Schuette who still owns Robison Service with me. 3rd - Maripat Jordan - writer and neurodiversity activist

The article also has at times said I am self-diagnosed. That is incorrect and it's an important error to fix. I was diagnosed by a therapist friend at age 40, as described in the chapter "A Diagnosis at Forty" in Look Me in the Eye. Later, when I joined various autism research studies, I was diagnosed using the "gold standard" ADOS screening tools at Harvard Medical School and the University of Pennsylvania autism clinic. I have also been diagnosed using both conventional and experimental techniques at other institutions in the USA and Europe.

The article has said at various times that I "Worked for Autism Speaks." That is not true. I was a member of the science board from 2008-2013 and resigned in protest after the founder made remarks that I felt were offensive to autistic people. That resignation letter is widely circulated online and cited in my page. I was never an AS employee; I was a volunteer board member.

Leventhal has also attacked the Wikipedia pages for Look Me in the Eye, and other places I am mentioned. I see most of the foreign editions of my book have been removed for "lack of citation" What sort of proof is expected, beyond a name and a publisher? I am going to post the names and publishers, and photos here as soon as I figure out how to put up photos.

I'd be happy to talk to any of you who are interested in constructive editing of this page. You can write me through Wikipedia mail or you can look me up on the William & Mary neurodiversity page.

Thanks John Elder RobisonJohnElderRobison (talk) 00:15, 4 March 2016 (UTC) --JohnElderRobison (talk) 23:56, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


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