Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Fiore (actor)


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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:18, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

John Fiore (actor)

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Subject does not appear to meet either WP:NACTOR or WP:BIO. Although there have been some appearances in some fairly well-known TV shows, most of the roles appear to have been minor characters and not meeting item 1 of NACTOR. Same goes for career as a producer. I tried WP:BEFORE, and I also tried asking for feedback at WT:FILMBIO where someone suggested AfD. I have no doubt that Fiore is an actor, but I'm just not sure if there's enough WP:SIGCOV of him in reliable sources to support a stand-alone article. As an alternative to deletion, a redirect to an article like List of The Sopranos characters or List of Law & Order characters might be possible since they appear to be his most notable roles. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:28, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Marchjuly (talk) 14:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Marchjuly (talk) 14:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Boy, this one is tough, and definitely merits a thorough AfD discussion – I'll be curious to see what other comments say (as my mind is open on this one)... Fiore actually gets a fair number of mentions in Variety, and a couple of them might be considered more than simply incidental. In addition, found these three sources on the subject –, ,  – now, two of those might be considered "local coverage" (Fiore is from the Boston-area), but they're not nothing. However, when I look for other coverage in places like THR, LA Times (all the "hits" here seem to be for a conductor, also with the name "John Fiore"...), Entertainment Weekly or Deadline Hollywood, I'm not finding enough that I feel this gets "pushed over the top". In addition, I don't feel like Fiore technically meets WP:NACTOR – his Law & Order and Sopranos roles were "recurring", not "main cast", and it looks like the only film Fiore actually headlined was the small indie film Johnny Slade's Greatest Hits. So, this essentially comes down to – Does Fiore meet WP:BASIC anyway, without meeting WP:NACTOR?! This question is probably a judgement call, and on my end I feel like the subject falls just a little short. YMMV... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:10, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete article lacks anything that is even close to indepth reliable sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note that per WP:NEXIST, topic notability is not based upon the state of sourcing in articles. North America1000 12:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The most comprehensive "delete" argument is a "weak delete" - more opinions needed

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:57, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete The nomination pretty much tells us everything, firstly congrats for a very detailed one that describes every single reason why this article is just not a keeper. He did appear in some very notable shows like Person of Interest for example, but his role in all of them are minor, that much that it just does not establish the needed notability. So he already fails WP:NACTOR. Looking at the sources IJBall posted, I just do not think they are enough to show that he is notable of any kind in those regards as well. And as per nom and even the article itself, it also fails in WP:BIO. All around, strong delete for me. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:45, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


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