Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Gifford Stower


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:17, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

John Gifford Stower

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After a discussion of notability on Talk:John Gifford Stower, I am sadly still convinced the subject is not notable. A participant of a notable event and included on List of Allied airmen from the Great Escape, as notability is not inherited he still needs to pass WP:BIO, and he does not. There is no in-depth coverage except few sentences which more or less make the current article as long as it will ever be, and he also does not seem to be notable from the military angle (no decorations, insufficient rank). "He was one of the 76 men who took part in the "Great Escape"", but that is not enough to be in an encyclopedia. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:49, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Article creator. I set out my arguments for retention in Talk:John Gifford Stower, and doubt I will have anything to add. I agree that Stower does not appear to be notable for anything other than his part in the Great Escape. Narky Blert (talk) 09:38, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just added a new citation I found by accident - from the Ottawa Journal of 20 May 1944. Narky Blert (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep according to the talk page discussion 41 of the victims of the Great Escape have articles on wikipedia. The book sources listed on the article are RS and probably enough for this article to be retained as a well written stub, there is nothing wrong with well written stubs and the most experienced editors often create them. Atlantic306 (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited, if 41 other escapees are notable, so be it. This one has to be considered based on his own merits, or rather, those of the sources, none of which has been shown to have more then 2-3 sentences on the subject. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:32, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete at best - Still questionable for the needed notability improvements. SwisterTwister   talk  05:50, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon  19:25, 14 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete This is a classic WP:BIO1E. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  21:14, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 17:29, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. st170e talk  22:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:BIO1E. EricSerge (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


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