Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Green (MP)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep as a snowball close. It appears the subject satisfies WP:NPOL requirements, and the overwhelmingly rapid consensus in favor of retaining the article suggests the discussion has already reached its logical conclusion. A non-admin closure. And Adoil Descended (talk) 17:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

John Green (MP)

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Fails to satisfy the stipulations of WP:GNG and WP:BASIC Barely satisfies the stipulations of WP:NPOL  James ( T •  C ) • 10:42pm • 11:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC) I will add some more refs, but this nomination appears to be completely ill-founded. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep (as creator). WP:NPOL says: "1. Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature". Green was for 18 years an elected Member of Parliament in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom, which is a national legislature. Why does the nominator describe that as "barely" meeting NPOL?
 * Keep. Quite obviously meets the requirements of WP:POLITICIAN. Ludicrous nomination. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Barely satisfying WP:NPOL is still satisfying WP:NPOL. Cheers! bd2412  T 13:37, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Snow keep - elected to a national assembly. I also note that even if this lacks in depth sourcing at present, it won't after the History of Parliament Online project is completed. Barney the barney barney (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly passes WP:NPOL as he was elected to Westminster on numerous occasions. Finnegas (talk) 14:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Proposer is attempting to promote John Green (author) by deleting all namesakes from Wikipedia, e.g. John Green (Medal of Honor) who is also unambiguously notable as a Medal of Honor recipient per WP:SOLDIER, and John Green (judge), who plainly meets WP:POLITICIAN. Proposal says the article fails to satisfy WP:GNG and WP:BASIC but offers no indication of what searches have been done for sources, suggesting WP:BEFORE has not been done. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know what his motive is, but he is certainly prodding articles that should definitely not be prodded. His argument seems to be that these people are not notable, which they clearly are, and/or that there are no reliable sources, which is not a good reason to prod clearly notable articles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: clearly notable as an MP. But posibly move to Greene?: it's not clear whether his name is "Green" or "Greene" - see my note on the talk page. Could someone with access to a useful WP:RS please check? (Too early to be in "History of Parliament": Hansard has him as "Greene", probably more reliable than Rayment who has "Green"; article title and text are at odds.) Pam  D  15:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict while I drafted the comment below. Yes, his name is Greene. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:50, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note mis-spelt name. The source I used when I created the article in 2009 mis-spells his name. Other sources confirm that it should be "Greene": Walker's book, which I have added, plus, , , and more in a Gbooks search. Some publications do mis-spell the name (see Gbooks earch for "John Green"), but a search for Greenville (the family's estate) and Greene confirms the spelling.  I don't want to move the page while it is at AFD, but if User:M.O.X would like to withdraw the nom I can move the page and correct the other links to him. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:48, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per above - Passes NPOL. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  17:18, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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