Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Greenleaf Cloudman


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The result was withdrawn by nominator. Michig (talk) 07:38, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

John Greenleaf Cloudman

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Non-notable per WP:ARTIST. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 06:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Was referenced in seven books: 1. 2005, Davenport, Ray Dvenport's Art Reference: The Gold Edition 2. 2005, Dunbier, Lonnie Pierson, The Artists Bluebook 3. 2002, Hughes, Edan Miltion, Artists in California: 1786-1940 4. 1999, Falk, Peter Hastings, Who Was Who in American Art 1564-1975 5. 1989, Hughes, Edan Milton, Artists in California: 1786-1940 6. 1985, Dawdy, Doris, Artists of the American West: A Biographical dictionary (3 volumes) 7. 1856, McCracken, Harold, Western Paintings: A Distinguished Collection


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 * Sources do not equate to notability. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 08:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 17:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 17:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I looked at WP:ARTIST and the subject appears to pass "(d) - is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." See Portland Museum of Art 1, 2; Maine State Museum and Maine Historical Society 3. Although these three museums are all in Maine, the Smithsonian American Art Museum consider him important enough to have a database record for his works in their index 4. Plus, the article mentions the Bangor Public Library collection, not strictly a museum, but still... Also, I found this book citation which indicates some coverage of his work, talking about "few known works" here and the snippet view cuts off tantalisingly with a glimpse of the next paragraph which is obviously about Cloudman and refers to his "distinctive painting style, which was not always crit [ically]...(snip)" - something that tells me that there is further material out there about this artist that is not readily available online, but which counts as coverage. The Milton book above has a biographical entry about the artist. It seems to me that based on all this, he just about passes WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST. Mabalu (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Withdraw as nominator and per Mabalu and lets move on. The article has also had significant changes since my nomination. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 07:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
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