Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John H. Fleming


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tone 13:35, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

John H. Fleming

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No evidence of actual notability--routine minor news events only  DGG ( talk ) 04:04, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:41, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Yes, there are a number of news articles used as sources, but there are also a number of books. The number, quality, and variety of sources are enough to satisfy GNG. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 17:48, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I continue to add more sources. I have a few more that I hope to be able to access in the next few days. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 04:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: I've just been through every one of those sources put up since the AfD was filed, and in only one can I find as much as a single sentence mentioning the subject. Would any Keep proponent identify the precise sources which provide coverage of the subject in the "significant detail" necessary to meet the GNG, and preferably by page number?  Casual mentions, be they ever so many and in hardbound books, do not suffice, nor do half a dozen reiterations of his obituary from the same newspaper.  0+0+0+0+0=0.   Ravenswing    19:38, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added some new content, supported by sources from the front pages of the New York Times and Boston Globe, among others. I trust this is sufficient. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 03:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Looking through the sources I could access (so everything except the NYT article), there weren't any that actually support the notability of John H Fleming. All of the Boston Globe reporting was transcripts from a trial involving Mr Fleming, but there doesn't seem to be any discussion about him. There is plenty about the girl suing him, but he is neither the primary focus of the stories nor sufficiently covered to learn anything more than that he interacted with a sick girl. Rockphed (talk) 12:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, Fleming "does not need to be the main topic of the source material" per GNG. The articles about the lawsuit cover him in far greater detail than just a trivial mention. There was a great deal of discussion about him, not just that he visited a sick girl. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * the criterion is not "more than a trivial mention", nor "themain topic", but "substantial". People will have to use their judgement about that.  DGG ( talk ) 01:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


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