Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Hackett (musician)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. based on new sources found (which I hope find their way into the article). Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

John Hackett (musician)

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Subject isn't particularly notable and the only sources I can find with any sort of relation to him are about his brother. 4 sources do come up relating to his band but all of them are from the same website, which I don't believe counts as significant coverage. Article only uses three sources, and only one seems barely notable. Dawnbails (talk) 00:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians,  and Music. Dawnbails (talk) 00:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can't find any third party independent sources which aren't interviews with him, so it fails MUSICBIO.  Qcne  (talk)  19:53, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Notability (people), which says: "People are presumed if they have received significant coverage in  that are,  of each other, and .If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." Sources   The review notes: "But tonight they are showcasing John Hackett, with his prolific five-decade long career encompassing classical and full-on rock. ... Easing in gently, Hackett kicks off a varied night by playing a short duo set with collaborator Nick Fletcher on classical guitar. With Hackett playing a strange looking instrument – “It’s a vertical flute, not a plumbing tool!” – they open with the spritely yet gentle Entr’acte, by French composer Ibert, and Hackett’s own Freefall, a pastoral musical sketch evocative of wide open skies."   The article notes: "With a musical career spanning almost 50 years, John Hackett is one of prog’s ‘go to’ flute players, appearing on albums by musicians such as Anthony Phillips, Nick Magnus and most recently, Ms Amy Birks. He’s collaborated on and recorded several classical albums as a solo artist, in duets or bands, including Symbiosis, and these days he records and tours with his own eponymous band, but it’s his contributions to elder brother Steve’s albums for which he’s best known."   The review notes: "The scope of the music is progeclectic. Songs such as The Spyglass are melodic, multi-harmonied and Yes-like – with a creepy Big Brother vocal – others such as Theme And Rondo have, naturally for flautist/keyboard player Hackett, a classical influence. Burnt Down Trees has blues and jazz-rock at the centre and Hackett’s mellifluous playing on the Latin-influenced, bouncy instrumental Queenie And Elmo’s Perfect Day – and the Focus-tastic romp Red Hair – is balanced nicely against Fletcher’s rip-roaring prog-jazz guitar work (possibly the band’s secret weapon here)." </li> <li> The abstract notes: " A recording of guitar duets and flute/guitar duets featuring flutist, guitarist, and composer John Hackett is reviewed (Hacktrax)." </li> <li> The abstract notes: " Flutist and composer John Hackett is profiled. Growing up in London, he began his musical career as a guitarist like his brother, who became the lead guitarist for the rock band Genesis. Seeing Ian McDonald of King Crimson inspired Hackett to try the flute. He attended Sheffield Univesity, specializing in flute performance and studying composition. After leaving school, he toured with Genesis for a few years. A 1993 neck injury left him unable to play for a year and forced him to switch to a curved headjoint on his flute. Changing his style of playing to the new type of flute was a challenge." </li> <li> The article notes: "The John Hackett Band come to Ewyas Harold Memorial Hall for a night of prog rock on Saturday, September 29. Progressive rock flute player, guitarist, keyboard player and singer John is best known for his work with his brother Steve Hackett, the former Genesis guitarist. Since 1975 he has recorded and toured with Steve in Europe, USA and Japan alongside a career as a solo flautist and session player. The band is full of exceptional players who weave beautiful themes from atmospheric soundscapes to funk and rock." </li> <li> The review notes: "John Hackett Band,"We Are Not Alone" (Esoteric / Cherry Red)- The multi-talented Mr.Hackett is probably best known for his flute wielding exploits with brother Steve during the late seventies and early eighties but he's now firmly established as a band leader in his own right, and "We Are Not Alone" serves up a veritable feast of free flowing prog rock for your listening pleasure. The 2 CD set is divided equally between live and studio recordings, with classical guitarist Nick Fletcher's contributions also deserving a mention in dispatches as Hackett and his gifted cohorts unveil freshly minted gems such as "Take Control," "Never Gonna Make A Dime" and the instrumental "Blue Skies of Marazion."" </li> <li> The review notes: "John Hackett,"The Piper Plays His Tune" (Hacktrax)- This beguiling home produced offering provides an eloquent vehicle for the consumate artistry of the multi-talented John Hackett, whose instantly identifiable flute sound has graced many of his elder brother Steve's critically acclaimed prog-rock projects since the mid seventies. "The Piper Plays His Tune" captures John at his most melodic and accessible as he indulges his lifelong passion for the delights of good old fashioned pop music via skilfully executed solo ditties such as "Broken Glass," Julia" and the reflective "Too Late For Dreamers."" </li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow John Hackett to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC) </li></ul> Relisting comment: Relisting to review newly located sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:21, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I personally wouldn't consider this significant coverage; the first three sources you've provided come from the same magazine, the two ProQuest ones don't appear to be reliable, source #6 is of a local newspaper, and the two last sources provided come from the same newspaper and again appear to be local. I don't really see merit in these being "reliable sources" nor do I see it to be significant coverage enough for this person to require an article. Dawnbails (talk) 17:42, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * From this book, "Flute Talk magazine is an informative resource and a fun read for flutists of all ages and playing levels. It includes interviews with accomplished flutists, features on various performance styles, a column on piccolo playing, performance guides for flute repertoire, masterclass and event listings, and much more. Check out the Web site for more information: www.flutetalkmagazine.com." This book verifies that Kathleen Goll-Wilson served as editor of Flute Talk. I consider Flute Talk to be a reliable source about music-related topics. This book verifies that since 1982, Colin Cooper has been features editor of Classical Guitar. I consider Classical Guitar to be a reliable source about music-related topics. Notability (people) does not exclude local sources from establishing notability. If editors would like to exclude local sources from establishing notability, they need to achieve consensus to change the guideline.  Notability (people) says, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." It is clear that after combining the biographical coverage in all these independent sources, there is enough coverage to establish notability.  Cunard (talk) 01:34, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep as per the coverage in multiple reliable sources identified by Cunard above that together show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:37, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


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