Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Heussenstamm


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The result was keep. JodyBtalk 21:27, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

John Heussenstamm

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Declined speedy. Appears to be about a music teacher and guitarist. A search failed to find enough reliable or independent coverage; most of what I could find are links to books authored or co-authored by him. Being popular on YouTube isn't a good claim to notability either. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

John Heussenstamm can be considered a notable guitar instructor. Consider why his youtube channel gets decent traffic and why Hal Leonard Corporation included him in the 3 instructional DVDs mentioned. His book with Hal Leonard, Guitar Workout, and then the follow-up with 5 other publications, should be considered to grant him notability by wikipedia's first criterion for musician's and ensembles: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." Considering that there are 6 publications mentioned, how would this not be notable? The possible grey area is the last condition, "independent from the musician or ensemble itself." To justify why John Heussenstamm may pass this condition consider the rationale from the note placed on this criterion by wikipedia: "The rationale for this is easy to see – someone simply talking about themselves in their own personal blog, website, book publisher, social networking site or music networking site, etc., does not automatically mean they have sufficient attention in the world at large to be called notable. If that was so then everyone could have an article. Wikipedia is not a directory." If this is the concern of the first criterion, than clearly it does not apply to John Heussenstamm, because Hal Leonard Corporation and himself are not the same entity. He has been recognized by them. In addition, at some point, youtube popularity will also build notability. --Foreverstocks (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr. Guye (talk) 18:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC) Keep Just added an article and a profile/interview with him about his career that ran in Guitar International. Heussenstamm seems to be a figure in the guitar world with just enough coverage in reliable newspapers to pass notability - more notable as a teacher than as a musician.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * sourcethe Orange County Register ran a long profile (bio, career, review, interview, and discussion of his charitable work on behalf of funding public school music education) of him in 2006, accessed on Proquest.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 23:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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