Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Iadarola (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Young Turks. The arguments to keep are mostly non-policy based. For example, he's well known isn't a valid argument. Nor is the fact the this survived a previous AfD. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

John Iadarola
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To begin with this article is almsot completely sourced to links to the organization he works for. A search of general sources revealed maybe one article about him, although more about the show that he runs than him as an individual, and a few interviews with him, but not enough to be multiple, reliable sourced 3rd party substantial references about him. John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BASIC. Just nowhere near enough coverage in reliable secondary sources. Trivial mentions are about it. AusLondonder (talk) 14:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep It certainly needs improving, but he's well known. I see passed a deletion process in 2016 - Articles_for_deletion/John_Iadarola. Tom Ruen (talk) 01:52, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:30, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete He posts on a lot of social media, but my searches show WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to be lacking. The claim of notability, "an American talk show host, YouTube personality, and political pundit, and serves as the main political fill-in host for online news show The Young Turks" is unsupported by sources. The Young Turks is a minor/niche youtube webcast, and he is not one of its leading personalities.  The previous AfD attracted a single iVoter, who cited a lot of web sites like Burnt Orange Report, and Kickass News. I'm not even sure that this is a case of WP:TOOSOON because he's been self-promoting as a political pundit since 2012, according to the page; the last 5 years has been a Golden Age for the production of young political pundits, but this self-styled "pundit" appears not to have caught on.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:15, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. He's discussed in depth in some pieces, and is repeatedly named as a co-host of TYT in RS and quoted as such.  At the very least, it should be redirected to TYT.  Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:38, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The first source you mention is an article in The Daily Dot about the YouTube program he co-hosts switching form "TYT University to ThinkTank." It contains nothing to source a bio.  The second source quotes him.  Being quoted does not support notability for a person.  We need profiles, IMDEPTH coverage of some aspect of the individual's achievement, or some significant achievement.  Newscasters, sportscasters, beloved major market on air weather forecasters, and pundits of all strips are discussed at AfD regularly - and get deleted because we demand WP:SIGCOV.  Ping me if somebody finds some.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:01, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:26, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete The Young Turks is undeniably reliable but that's WP:NOTINHERITED. A redirect to The Young Turks, as Patar knight suggested, would be sufficient.LM2000 (talk) 08:42, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Iadarolo is hosting a series on the Greenland and the Arctic, shot this summer and airing later this year . Rhadow (talk) 22:31, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Interesting, although it will "air" on Verizon streaming service (with some air time promised on HuffPost); the article not about him, except that he is mentioned as the host. nevertheless, changing my iVote to...


 * Redirect to The Young Turks. Suggest that interested editors incubate it there, and wait until coverage of his career gains a little more heft before hoping to move it to a freestanding article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:06, 30 October 2017 (UTC)


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