Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Iadarola (3rd nomination)


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:33, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

John Iadarola
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American talk show host. This article was redirected as non-notable in 2017 at Articles for deletion/John Iadarola (2nd nomination). At Deletion review/Log/2019 November 16, argued that the person is now notable. DRV decided to re-submit the article to AfD. This is a procedural nomination, I am neutral.  Sandstein  10:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC) This is to notify you as DRV participants and previous AfD closer about this discussion.  Sandstein  10:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Weak Keep - The article has been reference-bombed with too many sources, but it has sources, and the subject appears to pass general notability marginally. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The last discussion on this topic was in 2017. Previous reasons for deletion included WP:RS and WP:TOOSOON. However, since this was last discussed, he has become the co-host of The Young Turks. The channel averages over 30 million views per month, and has over 4.55 million subscribers. Additionally, his newer show "The Damage Report" averages over 300,000 views a day. As part his program, he has interviewed propionate public figures including Presidential Candidate Andrew Yang. Additionally he is often cited by news outlets regarding his political analysis, such as Mediaite, Paste, Washington Examiner, Newsweek, and The Washington Post. He has also been on Politicking with Larry King and has been a contributor for KTLA.  I now feel that I can assist in creating this page without running into WP:RS issues. This combined with his prior discussing on a show he hosted for Fusion TV and "True North" (a Verizon produced mini-series), makes me feel that this is now eligible for creation under WP:WEB.  GeekInParadise (talk) 20:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - If you are complaining about reference bombing, then that might be my reaction; to source everything due to two previous AfD attacks against this subject. It doesn't need the volume of sources except for the fact that this is the third AfD on this article.  The second one merged it.  Background:  The Young Turks is a an online youtube based network.  If it is not the current top rated network, it had that rank and is near the top now.  That means they are a big player.  Their cumulative views are in the billions, tens of millions monthly noted above.  That means more viewership than cable news.  Started by Cenk Uygur in 2002, they take a politically progressive stance.  They have not been regarded as part of conventional media.  Their success is offensive to conventional media, who would love to ignore them out of existence.  Like many youtube celebrities, they have self-created their on-air personalities.  Iadarola is one of those and not just an also ran.  For years he has been the #3 anchor of the main show, so he frequently anchors at least an hour a day.  Plus lead anchor of several versions of his own shows, currently the Damage Report which was launching when the last AfD hid his article through the merge.  Documented, he has also branched off to other independent projects.  He contributes and plays pundit on other media outlets.  With Uygur running for Congress, Iadarola is now essentially the co-anchor of the main show.  In previous arguments, I believe Iadarola has been used as a token target to dismiss the importance of the network, and its content that obviously offends those of opposing viewpoints.  It is a classic case of an WP:IDon'tLikeIt argument.  The standards of sourcing artificially increased and obviously for the last year those in opposition have succeeded in squelching wikipedia's mission of providing information.  We should be answering the question: "Who is this guy?" which is why I created the article.  It was not I who brought the suggestion of resurrecting his article up, there are other people noticing this omission to our content.  A year on from the previous poor decision, there are even more sources reporting on Iadarola. Trackinfo (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


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