Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Jay Phelps


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-18 08:57Z 

John Jay Phelps

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criterion A7 (Unremarkable people or groups) As several people have edited the page, and it has been in existance for a year and a half, give them time to reply Philip Baird Shearer 11:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Only 42 Google hits, none of any major significance. - PoliticalJunkie 21:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep A major early railroad baron and historical figure. Using Google hits is not only improper in general, but an extremely poor measure of notability for an individual who died over 100 years before the internet was invented. The several dozen mentions in the New York Times, including a sizable obituary, are far better measures of genuine notability. Alansohn 03:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I think that this needs adding to the artcle. I arrived at the page from making John Phelps a disambiguation page and I could not write a one liner description, as I had for the other John Phelps, using the Wikipedia article as a source. It is metioned that he was a director of a railroad, but unless one knows who he is and reads between the lines, the Wikipedia article does not inform the reader that he was a "railroad baron" and a very very wealthy man. (I got the wealth snippet from an article thrown up by the Google search suggested by PoliticalJunkie) --Philip Baird Shearer 09:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Alansohn Alf Photoman  15:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep John Jay Phelps' place in history includes mention alongside many other prominent men of the time, including Dodge and Morgan. btphelps 20:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.