Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John K. Edmunds (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

John K. Edmunds
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This subject continues to not meet WP:BASIC. Source searches are providing no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, only name checks and minor mentions. The Deseret News Church Almanac source in the article presumably provides some coverage, but multiple sources providing significant coverage is required to qualify notability, not only one.

Almost none of the !votes for article retention in the previous AfD discussion provided any sources, except for one lone source (here) which provides minimal, non-significant coverage (in my opinion), instead relying mostly upon personal opinion regarding the subject's notability, such as the subject's activities and position in a religious group. However, there is no presumed notability for religious subjects on English Wikipedia. North America1000 19:18, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note that his book Through Temple Doors is quite widely cited .E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   11:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This was kept at a nomination after North America began his anti-articles on members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints crusade on July 22nd, 2018. This is far to soon to bring this up for renomination.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:35, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – Sorry, but regarding the !vote above:
 * The previous AfD discussion was closed as no consensus, not as keep.
 * It does not provide a valid rationale for the article to be retained.
 * Renominating an article around three months after a first nomination, and when the previous AfD was closed as no consensus, is certainly not too soon.
 * Arguments for article retention in the previous AfD discussion were based upon personal opinion, rather than actual Wikipedia guidelines and policies.
 * There is no presumed notability for religious subjects on English Wikipedia.
 * – North America1000 01:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.