Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Kudusay


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 22:59, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

John Kudusay

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Contested prod. Prod was contested, incorrectly, because editor thought I prodded it due to the fact the subject was from South Sudan. In fact, the only thing I stated in the prod was notability was not established. The same editor removed a speedy because he says touring in another country indicates notability. I see nothing in this article to show he toured in another country and I would argue that if a musician lives within a short distance of another country, say in Seattle, it would be easier for him to perform in Vancouver than Miami as far as travel time and so on. So the unreferenced comment about touring in other countries, IMHO, means nothing. As the article is written right now, the subject is not notable. ThurstonMitchell (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ThurstonMitchell (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:49, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment The reference that was in the article before I had even seen it was about him touring Australia, many thousands of miles from South Sudan, so the Seattle/Vancouver analogy is irrelevant and the word "unreferenced" in the nomination statement is untrue. The reference that I added identified the subject as one of the top 12 all-time artists from South Sudan. As I said when I contested the WP:PROD tag, would we not accept as obvious notability being identified as one of the top 12 artists from a smaller country such as Belgium or Sweden? ThurstonMitchell, can you really, hand on heart, say that you would have nominated this for deletion if the subject had been from a Western country? And, anyway, isn't it demonstrated that the subject passes the general notability guideline? And am I asking too many questions here? Phil Bridger (talk) 15:52, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel 5969  TT me 03:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * keep poor written article  are Not a reason for Deletion, the musician seems to be Notable , after my google search verification i found some sources about him wish i have added to the article . this article need a lot of improvement ... Samat lib (talk) 07:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - In conducting a WP:BEFORE search, the subject does not receive significant coverage in multiple reliably and independently secondary sources which indicates they fail WP:GNG. One can question the reason for the nomination if they want but I focused on the subject of the article which is really what is important. It does not matter how many countries the subject toured in. It does not matter how the article is written either. AfD is not article clean-up. It really doesn't matter what sources are or are not provided in the article so long as they exist but they have to exist and must be verifiable. If someone can provide three independent and reliable sources that give the subject significant coverage then I will re-evaluate my assessment. -- A Rose Wolf  17:13, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


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