Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Lane Gardner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to John L. Gardner (brigadier general). Any editor is welcome to merge the content from the history behind the redirect at their leisure. Daniel (talk) 23:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

John Lane Gardner
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Duplicate article. Text for this page seems to have been copy and pasted from one source with a few minor variations but still has acute close paraphrasing issues. Page relies almost completely on one source. A side note: The use of a person's full name in the title of a biography isn't usually done unless the person was known as such (e.g. John Wilkes Booth). This article was originally nominated for merge with John L. Gardner (brigadier general), but the latter article has much more coverage that goes beyond the content of this page which is practically a stub and there is nothing that this page can offer it. Other page also has info box, bibliography is well cited and utilizes many sources. Gwillhickers 01:29, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to John L. Gardner (brigadier general). bd2412  T 02:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's an option, but why not simply delete? -- Gwillhickers 17:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect and change name to John Lane Gardner for the Gwillhicker version as per the discussion on the talk page and the article name in Appletons. The Appleton's entry is titled "John Lane Gardner" and his Authority Control name is "John Lane Gardner". I am the creator of the original 2006 article. Gwillhickers started his version on October 11, 2013‎ and mine was started on October 16, 2006‎, so it was him not performing due diligence, not me. Note the source on mine is the 1888 Appleton's and it is properly referenced as coming from Appletons with the "Appletons" template. Really no need to bring this to AFD when a redirect is so obvious, but consider the renaming per the encyclopedia entry and the authority control name. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge content and redirect to John Lane Gardner. As I said on the talk page, I'd like to see the content merged and listed under the non-parenthetical title. -- Coemgenus (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the John Lane Gardner article has been tagged for close paraphrasing and single source issues and except for a couple of tweaks, has been neglected since 2011, I thought deleting it would be the simpler approach, however either title will work. The major concern is resolving the 'two articles for one person' issue as Coemgenus pointed out. As for the merge, there is little if anything to merge. All of the information in the form of close paraphrasing and copy-pasting in the John Lane Gardner article is already well implemented in the John L. Gardner (brigadier general) article. -- Gwillhickers 00:03, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You do understand that entire articles can be cut and pasted from sources that have had their copyright expire. There is no rule that demands that they be deleted because of that. The entire congressional biography series, and others, were migrated to Wikipedia in their original form and then wikified. BTW, excellent article you wrote. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I realize that. In fact I have done that on a couple of occasions, but if left that way it can get tagged, etc. No biggie. In any case, thanks for the kind words. As I said, I can live with whatever is decided on. On retrospect using Gardner's full name is beginning to sit well with me. Merry Christmas and/or Good Will to All. -- Gwillhickers 18:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.