Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Magno (2nd nomination)


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The result was redirect to Woodbine Supply fire. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

John Magno
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Standalone WP:BLPs of two people notable exclusively for having been convicted of a relatively obscure crime. They were previously nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/John Magno in 2008, in a discussion which closed on a consensus to merge them into a single article about the event rather than standalone BLPs of them as people — but while that article got created at Woodbine Supply fire, the BLPs never actually got redirected to it, but simply stuck around as standalone WP:BLP1Es despite the AFD consensus. They still don't warrant their own separate articles independently of the main one on the event itself — but since it's been seven years, I feel it's necessary to establish a new consensus to either redirect or delete them, rather than simply relying on the original discussion as enough support for an arbitrary action. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * [Note: I've modified my wording here slightly, because I don't want to give the impression that I'm accusing anybody of deliberately ignoring the prior AFD consensus — I fully accept and understand that this was an accidental oversight rather than an intentional flout, so I've reworded the parts that could potentially be perceived as implying malfeasance.] Bearcat (talk) 19:01, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * delete per WP:SINGLEEVENT. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. EricSerge (talk) 23:35, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect (and delete). This seems to have just been an oversight of the original decision. LaMona (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Woodbine Supply fire. I created the event article independently some time after the discussions mentioned by and wasn't aware that they took place until I came across this thread today. When I created the fire article I kept the sections on those two deliberately short because they already had their own articles, but I agree that both are primarily notable just for their involvement in the fire, so expanding those sections in the fire article is better. However, the history of the two bios would be required for attribution, and history-merging doesn't make sense. As for the fire itself, it is notable for being one of the largest fires (according to sources) in Toronto's history, for being a fatal insurance fraud, and for Magno and Roks having been charged under an unusual part of the Criminal Code (all as indicated by sources). Ivanvector (talk) 19:14, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Woodbine Supply fire as per User:Ivanvector. Heaven preserve us from greed.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.