Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Marston (character)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There seems to be an agreement post relist that despite the fact the text needs a rework, subject passes WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

John Marston (character)

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The character is not independently notable from Red Dead Redemption. Video game characters usually require some real world association (such as Pikachu, or Sonic), however this character only appears in one game series, so is not any more notable than any other character.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 19:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 19:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Easily identifiable as WP:GAMECRUFT and in-universe-only topic. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 20:27, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability not inherited from his parent game. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Red Dead Redemption and merge any relevant details that don't already exist there. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep While the other RDR character was a problem, There a good deal of sourced development info and on character reception to make this one independently nktable. The bio has to be trimmed significantly. --M asem (t) 13:00, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: There's plenty of sources covering this character, many of whom are present in the article itself. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm going to have to say keep on this one as well. Unlike the other Red Dead character article, which is pure WP:GAMECRUFT, Marston has actually received significant coverage from reliable sources. Here are a few: Kotaku, Game Informer, Polygon, Digital Spy, Engadget, and more you can find in Google. JOE BRO  64  00:59, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Red Dead Redemption. Unlike Ellie, whose production was well-documented, most of the coverage of John Marston himself like is tied to Rob Wiethoff, so WP:NOTINHERITED applies both for the game and for the actor I'm afraid.  w umbolo   ^^^  16:32, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are demonstrably quite a few RSes that have dedicated coverage to Marston. Phediuk (talk) 01:00, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:38, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with Masem, I see enough towards passing gaming Notability of the character. Govvy (talk) 16:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – Marston is about as notable as Niko Bellic and Trevor Philips honestly. The bio definitely needs to be trimmed, but outside of that, the article is pretty well-written and there's plenty of reliable sources throughout. Aria1561 (talk) 17:28, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: I don't agree with the assessment that the coverage is insufficient due to the association with Wiethoff, however I think the article is crufty, so someone either needs to slap an in-universe perspective tag on it or even better trim the crap.   SITH   (talk)   17:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above comments. Aoba47 (talk) 07:12, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking through some of the articles others mentioned, there is significant coverage in reliable sources of this character.  D r e a m Focus  18:55, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to pass WP:GNG. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


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