Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John McCain IV


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  07:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

John McCain IV

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Notability concerns for this son of a political figure. The article is heavily focused on trivial/gossip details such as deleted tweets and celebrity dating. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 00:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. – TheGridExe  ( talk )  01:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  01:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  01:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. -- ψλ  ● ✉ ✓ 01:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED: he's not inherently notable. SportingFlyer  talk  01:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED.TH1980 (talk) 02:06, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:07, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Indeed, no reliable source coverage not connected to his father. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Has a famous great-grandfather. No claim to individual notability.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  08:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete You don't get into an encyclopaedia by being someone's relative. Exemplo347 (talk) 14:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, so he does not get a Wikipedia article just for being related to John McCain, but nothing here is an independent notability claim in its own right and the sourcing isn't really evincing a solid WP:GNG pass as it represents a mix of sources that glancingly namecheck his existence without being about him, and sources which include him giving soundbite to the media about his dad while continuing to not really have him as their subject. I'm also absolutely sure we've done this before at a slightly variant title, because I distinctly remember a past AFD discussion about a relative of John McCain where the keep proponents argued that he was notable because a graduating ceremony at the US Naval Academy had put him in the company of Barack Obama just months after Obama had defeated McCain in the 2008 election — and the very first source here has the headline "Obama hugs Navy grad John McCain IV", suggesting that this is the same person as what I'm remembering even though there's no deleted history at this particular title. Bearcat (talk) 18:14, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, at Articles for deletion/John S. McCain IV in 2010. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I apologize, when I created the article I thought it would pass the notability standards independent of his father on the basis of the widespread coverage of his writing and relationships and didn't check to see if it had been created previously. That said, I do understand that the coverage of his writing would not have occurred had his father not been famous, and the coverage of his relationships would not have occurred had he not been dating an actress. I defer to the consensus express here. Wolfson5 (talk) 01:08, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing notable about him. Of course I also think this applies to several children of US presidents, for example Tiffany Trump, who we do have articles on, but that is another story.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:26, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


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