Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Mengatti


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus at this time. Almost none of the arguments in this discussion - on either side - are very well grounded in policy. Subjective statements to the effect of "actor worth knowing" and "forgettable television show" add no value in determining whether or not our guidelines for inclusion have been satisfied. I strongly urge those arguing to keep this article to address the concerns regarding sourcing, otherwise a subsequent AfD may not have a very favorable outcome. Shereth 22:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

John Mengatti

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non notable actor, only claim to fame is a bit part on a totally forgettable tv series Wuh  Wuz  Dat  00:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. Does not seem like this actor has done much in the 2000s, but still an actor worth knowing.--Chaagg1 (talk) 04:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Chaagg1. Handschuh-talk to me 06:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. He does better than a lot of the actors who come up for deletion with three or four roles as "Clerk" or "Tom" in random TV episodes, but looking through his r&eacute;sum&eacute; in light of WP:ENT I just don't see "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions."  His role in The White Shadow is arguably significant; even though IMDb lists him eleventh in the credits he was in 23 of the 55 episodes.  Since then, though, it's been nothing but one-offs, low-billed roles in not-very-notable movies, and so on.  The article claims a "recurring" role in NYPD Blue, but that looks like a small part and it only "recurred" once.  I wish this guy luck in his return to the screen, but as of now he has "very minor actor" written all over him.  Also, as a bit of advice to the article creator, repeatedly removing deletion templates, blanking the AfD page, and the like won't stop this discussion from taking place but will make you look worse.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 20:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - assuming that the information from IMdB can be verified, he was in three TV series as a recurring character. That's barely enough for me.  I am old enough to recall Salami and his cousin. Bearian (talk) 23:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not pass WP:ENT. Simply "recurring" is not enough to constitute a major part, unless there is evidence that it was an important recurring role. Such evidence doesn't seem to exist, particularly since his "recurring" roll in NYPDB seems to have recurred once. Ironholds (talk) 00:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bearian. For what it's worth, I also take issue with the nominator's POV statement that The White Shadow was "a totally forgettable tv series." One's personal taste in TV is not an argument for deletion. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.