Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Mills (Kent cricketer)


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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 20:30, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

John Mills (Kent cricketer)

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Biography which fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:ATHLETE or WP:NCRIC. We appear to have a name and a single match he played in in 1744 which was not first-class so he fails the technical aspects of NCRIC and ATHLETE. Other than a single scorecard and a fleeting mention as having been replaced in another match in the same year, we don't appear to have anything else other than a name. CricketArchive has only a name and his single match (this profile). The article claims that "the sources" tell us he was a gamekeeper, but these are unsupported by secondary references - the single source that is given for this claim is a self-published source that the article author created and which is of dubious reliability. I can find no other sources that aren't copies of either the Wikipedia article or this source and there is no reference to him in any of the Kent sources I have available. We simply lack any other biographical information from suitable sources, so there's no way we'll ever be able to create a biography which meets WP:GNG. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:11, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:11, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete, no evidence that he meets WP:GNG, and by extension WP:N. As noted by the nominator, even the claims of notability are limited and poorly sourced. Harrias  talk 21:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom's rationale.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, presumably he is this guy, hasn't played matches rated as first-class. StickyWicket (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete; fails NCRIC and I can't find any sources that contribute towards GNG. Of the sources in the article I am curious whether this is reliable and where they got that information from. Could or does the book by F. S. Ashley-Cooper contain significant coverage of him? Happy Festivities! //  J 947  (c) 02:30, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a self published source and has issues with reliability unfortunately (the link made in the source between John Mills and another Mills who played in the same match as brothers has, for example, absolutely no evidence to back it up and is simply extrapolated by the source's author from their names). I don't think we could rely on it to make an assumption that other sources exist that could get this to a GNG level of sourcing. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:45, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


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