Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Monday


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Discounting comments and !votes from sockpuppets. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

John Monday

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Promotional page for non-notable actor. Doesn't come close to meeting WP:NACTOR, and doesn't meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON, a good start but needs more prominent roles to pass WP:NACTOR and to generate coverage Atlantic306 (talk) 19:50, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I was notified of this page nomination for deletion, as I was the first editor in the page's history. I created a redirect for "John Monday" to Jon Monday. Please redirect, if this page is deleted.Ellis408 (talk) 20:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and restore redirect as it fails GNG and is nothing more than spammy garbage created by several SPAs and is basically just an article hijack. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  20:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Speedied it per A7 and G11, let's see if an admin agrees. Jdcomix (talk) 00:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete a bunch of junk sourcing does not add up to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:40, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - This page should not be considered for deletion, because Google Inc. has recently added an "about/credit" to. If you google the name: John Monday, information arises about John Monday who is in the film "Kalifornia." Upon further research, this individual John Monday who is an actor as well as a musician appears to have an IMDb age as well as a website. On his IMDb, he was on the notable television show: Modern Family. While I agree that the information currently on this wikipedia page is not up to wikipedia's standards (from phrasing to enough content), I feel that this individual, as recognized by a Google Inc. Profile in the a generic search result, should have an a proper wikipedia page and it appears, upon research, that there is sufficient information to add to this page to bring it up to wikipedia's standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.180.234.18 (talk) 11:18, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of independent sources to demonstrate notability. Rivertorch FIREWATER  15:24, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Today I created a wikipedia account because I became interested in learning how wikipedia works. As a first time noob here, I came across this page when I clicked "random article to edit." While I am not too familiar with wikipedia standards because this is my first day, I did my best to do as much research as I could find to update Monday's wikipedia page to bring it to a more "notable" standard. I am not sure whether or not it meets wiki's standards, but I hope that the information that I added is sufficient to perhaps keep the article since I worked hard and this is my first one...Wikifulwonderment (talk) 16:08, 23 February 2018 (UTC) — Wikifulwonderment (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment. While doing research on John Monday and updating his article to improve its existence... while I was on his imdb page (imdb.me/johnmonday) I found another person with a wikipedia page. Her name isAlexis Wilkins. It appears that this person's wikipedia page is very similar to Monday's with content and notability.Wikifulwonderment (talk) 16:13, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * @Wikifulwonderment: Thank you for the tip. There is now a separate discussion for that article at Articles for deletion/Alexis Wilkins. —C.Fred (talk) 16:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Outcome query. If the article is deleted, is there enough worthwhile material to move it to draft space instead to continue incubation? —C.Fred (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that would be helpful to the encyclopedia - if he is not notable, a draft can't become a mainspace article. It would probably be more discouraging than not for any editors who chose to work on the draft, if it were never moved to mainspace. --bonadea contributions talk 23:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - does not meet the relevant notability guidelines for actors or musicians. --bonadea contributions talk 23:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Outcome query. This article has over 30 references, over 10 of which link to things other than Monday's personal online social media/website accounts etc. While it is not sufficient to compare this article to another one that is allowed on wikipedia, it appears that there is much information of substance with references backing it up. If this article is deleted, might it be worth saving this information in a draft space to continue gathering more information? It seems likely due to Monday's impressive accomplishments, that he might reach the nobility standards on wikipedia in the near future. Plus, Monday has over 20k followers on Instagram. Would be a shame for this well written article to be completed deleted. Asking for the possibility for a draft if deletion were to the route to be taken.Wikifulwonderment (talk) 15:50, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep (for now) (striking !vote by confirmed sockpuppet  RA 0808  talkcontribs 14:59, 25 February 2018 (UTC)) This article has a sufficient number of references and includes substantial information with valid sources. Plus, there is a lot more you can be included in this article.Aliburgeden124928 (talk) 17:13, 24 February 2018 (UTC) — Aliburgeden124928 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - There is now an SPI investigation regarding virtually all of the editors who are !voting keep (Aliburgeden is to be added shortly). See Sockpuppet investigations/Thejohnmonday.  Onel 5969  TT me 21:23, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.