Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John O'Shea (politician)


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The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

John O'Shea (politician)

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WP:BLP of a politician, notable only as a local authority councillor. As always, this is not a level of political office that confers an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL -- politicians at the local level get articles only if either (a) they serve in a major metropolitan global city on the order of London, or (b) they can be referenced to a depth and range of media coverage that makes them much more special than most other local councillors. But that's not what this is doing; about half of its footnotes are primary sources which are not support for notability at all, and the other half are simply glancing namechecks of his existence in purely routine local coverage of local politics -- exactly zero of them are actually notability-supporting reliable source coverage about John O'Shea for the purposes of establishing that he would be more notable than the other 59 councillors in North Tyneside who don't have articles at all. This is simply not how you get a local councillor over NPOL #2. Bearcat (talk) 19:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 19:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 19:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable. I didn't properly read WP:NPOL before hastily accepting the draft and assumed that politicians who held any office were notable. Lesson learned. My apologies. lovkal (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Apologies. As the person who created the page I thought the person in question had an usual political career at the Local Authority level. It is very usual for any Councillor to serve on three different authorities. I also considered that since the person in question was the Deputy Leader and the Leader of the Opposition on a major metropolitan local authority that passed the notable test and why he is more notable than any of the other 59 councillors. I would like the page to remain. However this may just be because I am sentimental given it's the first page I have created. I will happily listen to people with more experience.TeaAndCake1819 (talk) 09:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - As a local councillor, does not meet WP:NPOLITICIAN, nor does he meet WP:GNG. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Member of the North Tyneside Council. A local councilmember does not automatically pass WP:NPOL and the expectation is that a local councilmember receives substantive national or international coverage. --Enos733 (talk) 00:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


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