Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Pachivas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Core desat 06:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

John Pachivas

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Lots of reasons - I think non-notable self promotion. It was tagged for notability before, then for copyright violation which isn't being resolved.Peter Rehse 04:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletions.   —Peter Rehse 04:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I tagged for the copy vio, it's either that, or self promotion either way shouldn't be here. --Nate1481(t/c) 10:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If there's a copyvio the article should be deleted, but Pachivas was the head of Shuri-ryu until his death in 2000, which is a major karate style with an international breadth, so he is notable. If someone rewrote the article in a non-promotional tone, I think it could be kept. Note also that several other top Shuri-ryu practitioners also have newly created articles - most are notable people, but have overly promotional articles. Bradford44 14:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The copyvio is that it's basicly the same (pre edit version) as the article linked @ the bottom, others might have same desease --Nate1481(t/c) 14:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete as a copyvio - there's no question its a copyvio. -- Whpq 00:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
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