Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Palladino


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus to keep. No reason the delete for copyvio reasons because that was fixed. (non-admin closure) w umbolo   ^^^  22:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

John Palladino

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While a couple of sources do say he was "pioneering," none of them have anything to say about him that constitutes significant coverage or are able to nod to what was pioneering about his work. The only source of any length seems to be the obit in what I'm not sure is even the main news outlet for his locality. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 05:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment Added more citations (including multiple books) and updated explaining why he's a pioneer (with citations). This was my first new Wiki page - didn't realize it'd get flagged so quickly. Thanks for the input. My apologizes if I didn't update this "talk" thread correctly –ActAudio (talk &sdot; contribs) 10:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sufficient citations to establish notability a a recording engineer.  DGG ( talk ) 09:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I need to do some more research before making a definitive choice, but although the article currently has problems with copyright issues and OR, it looks like it might be salvageable. Just looking through back copies of Billboard, many of the biographical claims can be corroborated: that Mr. Palladino started out at Radio Recorders ; that he was promoted to album producer at Capitol Records in 1956 ; that he was a pioneer in the use of Ampex recording tape and was responsible for developing Capitol's "duophonic sound" system  and twin pack tape cartridges ; that he became part of Capitol's A&R team  and was promoted to A&R director in 1976 . And although the Granata book and Sound on Sound articles are mostly primary sources as interviews conducted with Mr. Palladino, they confirm that he did work with Frank Sinatra on some of his most important records of the 1950s. Richard3120 (talk) 17:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Regarding the copyright issue - I did a sloppy job writing this initially (I'm still new to writing articles vs just doing editing). I already re-wrote some of that flagged information more carefully and with new citations. Initially it was just referencing his obituary). So, it's probably ok at this point to just delete those flagged sections. Actaudio (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: it would be good if the copyright issue on the page could be sorted out and removed, particularly as it's essentially just a duplicate of the rest of the article. But while it's still there, it's difficult to clean up the article because some of the references are in that section and we're not supposed to alter anything. Richard3120 (talk) 15:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't see it in any copyright discussion. Is there anything I can do to help move this along? Rewrite on a temp page or would that complicate things more? Actaudio (talk) 07:38, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NMUSIC and has coverage in reliable sources such as Billboard and therefore deserves a place in Wikipedia and the concerns about copyvio are being addressed, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 22:25, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Leaning keep: I've rewritten the article below the copyvio warning and added the sources I found above. It's still a bit of a mess, with repeated citations, but that's because they're also included in the blanked section under copyvio, and we're not allowed to touch that bit. Once that issue is sorted out, the page can be tided up, but I think there are enough reliable sources now to keep the rewritten part of the article as it stands and pass WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. Richard3120 (talk) 15:07, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: copyvio issues have been addressed, citations have been sorted out. Richard3120 (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.