Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Perry (pianist)


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The result was draftified. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 05:20, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

John Perry (pianist)

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Previously version of article was deleted. Instead of CSD, can we have a community discussion re: notability? -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:43, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment: It looks to me that the subject of the article is notable, but the entire text has been copied from the subject's profile, which more than one other website claims copyright over. We must delete the article unless someone is willing to rewrite it from scratch in a form that is not a copyright violation. --Deskford (talk) 16:12, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Likewise. I don't dispute that the musician deserves a Wikipedia article, but the current article has to be deleted as a copyright violation unless a) it is confirmed that the official profile has been published under a free license, or b) the article is re-written from the scratch. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 06:34, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Im sorry, but I put the text upside down! And I created all those links notbody would look up if they were not there! So, it took me many hours of work. You can't delete something from a CV, when it is important! Do you want to say, Perry got a masters degree from such and such a university and then neglect where he got his bachelor from!? Greetings! The same is it with round trips or prices won! --Christof Bucherer (talk) 19:36, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I am the creator of this page and I sent an email with asking Mr. Perry to use his material. The material has been spread all over the world. In many profiles you read exactly the same text. What you don't find is the age of Mr. Perry, nor birth date. Also you don't find anything about his relationship to Mina, John&Mina Perry as (we). But both they give concerts and lead the school for piano students they have founded. There is a presence of Andrea Perry having put many of the performances of Mr. Perry on YouTube.. I added two students and also a video how he teaches with Mina Perry in his classes. Since I have this linklist now, it heartwarming to listen to its music! One of the students of Mr. Perry is Umi Garrett who has her Wikipedia entry.. I feel, if the very good student of Mr. Perry deserves a page in Wikipedia, he does too! Amy is so famous, that I translated the Wikipedia page into German. They already deleted all the videos, which are in the English page, as if the adience in German does need to listen to the music, of which my link list is very long. In the German culture you are not allowed to say that a pianist is received with much acclamation or Standing Ovation, since you might hurt the feelings of the people, who don't like enthusiasm, as the German chancellor has expressed to the evangelical press. The attitude of many German speaking people is one of hatred (aggressiveness) against the neighbour, jealousy because we are all doing so well and the state looks so well after us!. I want to point out, that my mum has a Wikipedia page and much of the material has been taken from my own homepage! Do you think, anybody ever asked me if I would release this and this YouTube video or give copyright for Wilhelmine Bucherer from my CV, (which I had written on the day of her funeral in 2006) I have written about my mum? And my stepfather Max Zweig has a Wikipedia page, and do you think anybody has asked if its ok if they link my YouTube video of Max into the page? The author wrote, that after the death of his first wife, he did not marry my mum legally, since she did not want to convert from Christianity to Judaism!!! and then they give a link to my video as a proof! ("Nach dem Tod seiner ersten Frau Margarete heiratete er die Schweizer Harfenistin Wilhelmine Bucherer, jedoch blieb die Ehe im Staat Israel aufgrund der Weigerung Bucherers zum Judentum zu konvertierten nicht anerkannt".). And as if it were not enough, a blind Wikipedia user accused me of not writing my village name right and that I should go and change it on my mums page, as if I was the author or aware of details what that person who wrote the summary from reviews of my homepage and the general internet wisdom! My Village was called Schönbühl-Urtenen and the elite in the peoples assembly have turned it to Urtenen-Schönbühl, as if it would make any difference! Because, we all here, who live here, we say we live in Schönbühl (and Urtenen has its own railway station, where many farms stand - a class of people wo tend to go to the popular peoples party, which formerly was the farmers and middle class party. (I linked it in French, so, you can see, they speak three languages, but not English!) So, if you look at my address: it is 3322 Schönbühl, and my mother died in Schönbühl and is also burried in Schönbühl (in those former days 2006). Actually, the cemetery lies in Urtenen and over there is the church and Schönbühl there is forgotten about: kirche-urtenen.ch! So, nobody here can teach me where I live! But I enjoy now the whole time listening to the linklist I created for John Perry which is found at YouTube under John Perry. (here in Switzerland you hurt peoples feelings if you say that, since you are not "allowed" to "enjoy") Easy? Greetings and.... I am learning! --Christof Bucherer (talk) 19:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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I totally altered the original version, shortened it but also added new information. I hope the page remains! Greetings --Christof Bucherer (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. Seems notable, through this mess of an article does not do proper justice to the awards won . Copyvio issues persist (ex. to ) suggest most of the article should be nuked, and reduced to 2-3 sentences that are summary of facts and are not copied from some other sources. Also, Christof, you need to learn more about copyright. If the German article copied form your homepage and you do not use free license, the German article's content should be deleted. Linking to a YouTube video is not a copyvio. You cannot reuse someone else content on Wikipedia unless it is freely licensed. This is the law and those are Wikipedia rules. Please read more at Copyright. If you are German, German Wikipedia community is very active and has a ton of resources to help you learn on those topics. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:53, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

it looks notable and redeemable, it just isn't of a standard for main namespace. I have moved it to Draft:John Perry (pianist) where it can be improved. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


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