Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Peter Bell


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The result was   no consensus. postdlf (talk) 16:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

John Peter Bell

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fails WP:BIO and WP:DIPLOMAT. simply being an ambassador does not confer notability. ambassadors need notable third party coverage which this lacks. also nominating for the same reasons: *Denis Briand *J. Denis Bélisle *Philippe Beaulne LibStar (talk) 02:13, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Reject co-nominations please nominate properly: Discussing multiple articles in one AFDs is usually not a good idea unless they are very closely related, which these aren't. Anyway, per WP:BEFORE, Beaulne and Bélisle are both in Canadian Who's Who, which is one of the sources you need to check.  Let's split them down so that they can be discussed individually. Barney the barney barney (talk) 09:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete. As per nom. Non-notable diplomat. Atrian (talk) 18:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * which ones? all of them? Barney the barney barney (talk) 18:35, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  06:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)


 * List separately. unless you want to make the assumption that all Canadian diplomats to countries in Africa are equally non-notable. That's the only common factor.  DGG ( talk ) 17:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep all: Relist separately to gain proper consensus. SL93 (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * this can't be counted as a keep vote, no reason is given for keep. LibStar (talk) 23:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment only John Peter Bell is listed now. LibStar (talk) 23:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as lacking in depth coverage in reliable sources as required by the WP:GNG. If such sources get added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The subject is also notable as a director of Goldcorp and others. From doing a quick search, the sourcing seems patchy but there may be profiles, etc. behind paywalls and also his name and a bit of history etc. is likely to have turned up in multiple reliable sources at the time of appointment to various positions. Naturally, many such sources may not be available online, because of the era in which they would have been reported. -- Trevj (talk) 09:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


 * keep Not all ambassadors are considered notable. The multiple positions show that this particular one is considerably above the ordinary, & consequently notable. &#39;DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 19:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. In addition to his ambassadorial posts, Bell still holds the title of Honorary Consul of the Ivory Coast, he was chief negotiator at the 1992 Rio de Janeiro Earth Summit, Chief Federal Negotiator in the British Columbia First Nations treaty process (1999-2006), Protocol Adviser to the Four Host First Nations at the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Games, Doctor of Laws Honoris Causa from UBC, a member of the Board of Directors of Goldcorp and Tahoe Resources. He's also a professor at UBC, a member of the advisory board of Quest University, a recipient of the Panglima Cemilang Bintang Kenyalang award (Malaysia) and the Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal.. He was also a party to a notable family law case. Pburka (talk) 16:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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