Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Ralph Anstee


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

John Ralph Anstee

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Poorly sourced article on non-notable person; lists (without citing) only two sources, both of which are authored by the subject himself, and a search finds nothing even approaching RS sigcov. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Military,  and Australia. DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Nice looking chap, not in any way notable. WP:NOTMEMORIAL and doesn't pass WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:57, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with all above. Poorly formatted article, looks like it was copied from another location and plunked here. Oaktree b (talk) 13:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 13:56, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Terrible article of course, but he was an Officer of the Order of Australia. I think this probably qualifies per WP:ANYBIO #1. Note that it is almost certainly higher than the OBE, closer to a CBE, which we have generally considered to qualify. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Never knew that CBE makes one inherently notable per ANYBIO. Live and learn... DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It certainly has usually been held to. User:Necrothesp/List of AfD discussions for individuals with a CBE or above. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * However, Anstee was awarded Officer of the Order of Australia, while CBE is Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire - a rank above officer, OBE. And he is not otherwise notable/presumed notable, which may/probably played a role in those CBE nominations? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:55, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As I've already said above, the Order of the British Empire (which has six grades) and the Order of Australia (which has four) are not directly equivalent. An AO, the second highest grade of the Order of Australia, is probably more equivalent to a CBE, the third highest grade of the Order of the British Empire, than an OBE, the fourth highest. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BASIC, the presumption of notability of being one of the 3,453 awardees of the 3rd rank of the Order of Australia is just that, a presumption, BASIC still needs to be satisfied. Mztourist (talk) 05:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


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