Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Smith (Sheffield cricketer)


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The result was Move to John Smith (1845 Yorkshire cricketer) and redirect to List of English cricketers (1841–1850). TigerShark (talk) 23:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

John Smith (Sheffield cricketer)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT #5. Article previously boldly redirected, reverted after a discussion at RfD. BilledMammal (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Cricket. BilledMammal (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Per the note on the article talk page that I'd forgotten about, redirect to List of English cricketers (1841–1850) is probably the most effective solution. An even better solution, as I suggested at the RfD, would be to move over redirect John Smith (Sheffield cricketer) to John Smith (1845 Yorkshire cricketer), where I think the article was originally located. This is because there's no evidence that the man played for Sheffield, which is how we would usually name these - albeit with the usual caveat about the naming of Manchester, Sheffield, Cambridge etc... sides. Then redirect that as above - that way we preserve all the article history, discussions, attribution, sources and so on. That, in cases like this can be quite important - you'd be surprised how frequently more information is squirrelled out of things - was it RN Lee that was just a set of initials originally? Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:37, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Why not be WP:BOLD and redirect straight to List of English cricketers (1841–1850)? These obvious ones are a waste of everyone's time (: StickyWicket (talk) 14:59, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Because a bold redirect was previously rejected at RfD. BilledMammal (talk) 23:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Move to John Smith (1845 Yorkshire cricketer) and redirect to List of English cricketers (1841–1850) Obviously doesn't seem notable enough for an article so redirecting to this list here is the best option, however as BST states the current disambiguation is incorrect and needs changing. I'm not sure this suggested disambiguator is perfect either but I can't work out a better one with what we currently know. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


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