Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John T. Madden (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:14, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

John T. Madden
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An SPA claiming to be the subject contacted me on my talk page and requested deletion. Per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE I'm nominating the article. The subject is a long time MSU college band director who was accused of sending inappropriate texts to a student in 2015 and 2016 and was suspended for a week. He resigned after the suspension was publicized by student journalists. This is poorly sourced, except for WP:BLP1E info related to the case, which keeps getting added and deleted. I don't see anything about inherent notability with college band directors, so this may fail WP:GNG, although we do have a Category:University and college band directors. At the core, Wikipedia shouldn't be weaponized to right (perceived) great wrongs, but we'll see what consensus is. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  17:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I forgot that there was an earlier deletion discussion three years ago. I'm not sure anything has changed since then. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  17:39, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 20:19, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: no problem deleting this article per lack of notability. And activity. - DVdm (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as not receiving enough reliable sources coverage beyond WP:BLP1E to justify declining the wishes of the subject for the deletion of the article, in my view Atlantic306 (talk) 01:11, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't pass any notability guidelines.Misasory (talk) 22:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom and doesn't meet notability guidelines. Sources in the article are not reliable, independent, and secondary. Can't find any meaningful content through the ol' Google machine. Per the subject's request and lack of notability, should be deleted. - Pax  Verbum  04:46, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. My opinion in 2018 was to delete: "Does not pass WP:PERPETRATOR, at most borderline for WP:PROF, and per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE." I don't see anything new here to change my mind. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.